Great results with Endless Pads

radiantm3 · 09-20-2012, 11:42 AM

So I've been tracking my car with the OEM brembo Ferodos for awhile. Went through a set of front pads in about 4-5 track days. Pads are expensive for these brakes so I decided to get a set of track pads hoping they'd last a bit longer. I went with Endless pads and I was quite surprised with the results. Incredible stopping power (at least compared to the stock Ferodos) and after a 3 day event at Laguna Seca, they still look practically new:

I was pretty hard on the brakes all weekend and I had braking confidence session after session. Unfortunately I can't say the same about my rotors:

My rotors have gone through about 12 track days this year so it's expected, but they still have some life in them.

Really happy with these pads so far. They seem to stop really well when cold too, but I won't use them on the street because they make a lot of noise. With all the pad swapping I almost regret not going with Stoptechs.

bigjae1976 · 09-20-2012, 12:25 PM

Your rotors don't look bad at all. Those heat cracks are normal with track use. Just need to make sure they don't make it to either edge of the rotor. As your rotor gets worn you will get more cracks. You will likely have to replace the rotor long before it reaches its minimum thickness.

Odd request, can you take a pic of that piston/pad spreader tool in the background? Where did you get that? I'm looking for something smaller than the massive girodisc spreader.

radiantm3 · 09-20-2012, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bigjae1976

Your rotors don't look bad at all. Those heat cracks are normal with track use. Just need to make sure they don't make it to either edge of the rotor. As your rotor gets worn you will get more cracks. You will likely have to replace the rotor long before it reaches its minimum thickness.

Odd request, can you take a pic of that piston/pad spreader tool in the background? Where did you get that? I'm looking for something smaller than the massive girodisc spreader.

I got this from amazon. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...w_bottom_links

Not sure how long it will last but it works great so far and much cheaper than the girodisc one.

checkmate · 09-20-2012, 02:25 PM

Nice. Which Endless pads did you get?

bigjae1976 · 09-20-2012, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by radiantm3

I got this from amazon. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...w_bottom_links

Not sure how long it will last but it works great so far and much cheaper than the girodisc one.

Thanks!

FrenchBoy · 09-20-2012, 04:10 PM

Nice to hear. I am planning to get different pads next year. The StopTech Street Performance pads, though very cheap, don't last long and I could use more bite. The consensus among my track buddies seems to be on Pagid RS29 and RS19. But Endless appears like a nice choice. Not sure how they compare in price for the StopTech kit.

BTW, I have the Girodisc (made in WA!). It is pricey and bulky. Looks like it will last me a lifetime though. Stuuuuurrrdy!

klammer · 09-20-2012, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by radiantm3

So I've been tracking my car with the OEM brembo Ferodos for awhile. Went through a set of front pads in about 4-5 track days. Pads are expensive for these brakes so I decided to get a set of track pads hoping they'd last a bit longer. I went with Endless pads and I was quite surprised with the results. Incredible stopping power (at least compared to the stock Ferodos) and after a 3 day event at Laguna Seca, they still look practically new:

I was pretty hard on the brakes all weekend and I had braking confidence session after session. Unfortunately I can't say the same about my rotors:

My rotors have gone through about 12 track days this year so it's expected, but they still have some life in them.

Really happy with these pads so far. They seem to stop really well when cold too, but I won't use them on the street because they make a lot of noise. With all the pad swapping I almost regret not going with Stoptechs.

I've thought about the endless, was just too much $$$ something like $2k just for the fronts as they needed another set just to make the template for my BBK. I get about 4-6 track events on either the carbotechs or pagids so not sure you'll get a huge amount of difference in the endless. Wear appears to be more of a curve than a line so it really speeds (pun intended

) things up when you get past 1/2 worn in my experience. Rotors last quite a bit, had about 24 days on mine last year before I replaced them and probably could have gone for more. Spider cracks on rotors are like the rubber marks on the front of the car, comes with the territory, and not a real concern unless their drilled or approaching the edges. Good luck and happy tracking

bigjae1976 · 09-20-2012, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by klammer

I've thought about the endless, was just too much $$$ something like $2k just for the fronts as they needed another set just to make the template for my BBK. I get about 4-6 track events on either the carbotechs or pagids so not sure you'll get a huge amount of difference in the endless. Wear appears to be more of a curve than a line so it really speeds (pun intended

) things up when you get past 1/2 worn in my experience. Rotors last quite a bit, had about 24 days on mine last year before I replaced them and probably could have gone for more. Spider cracks on rotors are like the rubber marks on the front of the car, comes with the territory, and not a real concern unless their drilled or approaching the edges. Good luck and happy tracking

Do you use titanium backing plates? They do help the pad last longer as they get worn down. It also saves your brake fluid and keeps your calipers looking nice.

Porschefile · 09-20-2012, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bigjae1976

Your rotors don't look bad at all. Those heat cracks are normal with track use. Just need to make sure they don't make it to either edge of the rotor. As your rotor gets worn you will get more cracks. You will likely have to replace the rotor long before it reaches its minimum thickness.

Odd request, can you take a pic of that piston/pad spreader tool in the background? Where did you get that? I'm looking for something smaller than the massive girodisc spreader.

Agree, those rotors don't look bad at all yet. I may try endless after ST pads if they really last that long. I'm pleased with ST pads on ST60 for the price.

klammer · 09-20-2012, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bigjae1976

Do you use titanium backing plates? They do help the pad last longer as they get worn down. It also saves your brake fluid and keeps your calipers looking nice.

I have not tried that, thanks for the tip

checkmate · 09-21-2012, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bigjae1976

Do you use titanium backing plates? They do help the pad last longer as they get worn down. It also saves your brake fluid and keeps your calipers looking nice.

Where can I get these plates?

bigjae1976 · 09-21-2012, 11:07 AM

www.zeckhausen.com. Click on Stoptech. I just run them on my front calipers.

wwjd15 · 09-21-2012, 03:41 PM

Endless is also my top choice. BTW, which compound did you choose? Endless has about 20 kinds of different compounds for different purpose use. I always mix-match them to get what customers want for braking.
For the set up you have, there's some compounds you can DD and track altogether.

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