dropping and putting spacer ?

M3Power55 · 12-19-2011, 02:06 AM

Hey everyone i have been going back and fort about droping my car and puting spacers, and i have a few question it seems like i cant realy get a solid answer from anyone. so my question is, does lower the E92 M3 ZCP and puting spacers mess up the handleing of the car or does it make it better, i have herd diff things some say that since spacers wideing out the wheel base it gives it better grip and lower makes it handle better i dunno what to belive. Can anyone help me out with this?

FVM3 · 12-19-2011, 03:40 AM

it helps a bit but not obvious. Spacers has nothing to do with handling

Bluesummer · 12-19-2011, 03:45 AM

my theory is: if you have to ask, you most likely wouldnt notice the difference.

THE TECH · 12-19-2011, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Bluesummer

my theory is: if you have to ask, you most likely wouldnt notice the difference.

+1

M3Power55 · 12-19-2011, 09:52 AM

I see I think I am most likely going to go with h

///My5UV · 12-19-2011, 10:46 AM

Both of those changes will lower the sprung mass and roll center of the car, so in theory they would help handling at the limit on smooth pavement. However, depending on how you go about lowering the car, you might end up riding the bump stops more often in high lateral loads or when hitting bumps on even moderate loads, which would cause a step function in spring rate which will immediately loosen whichever end hits the stops first. That would be much worse handling. So to lower it correctly, you have to increase the spring rate to prevent bottoming out, which can actually hurt handing on less-than-perfect surfaces, especially if the dampers aren't modified to match, all while giving you a worse ride.

As for spacers, they're going to put more stress on your wheel bearings, so you have to be extra vigilant about checking them, although a few millimeters never seemed to make a difference on my cars.

M3Power55 · 12-19-2011, 11:31 AM

So what you say is the correct way of lower the car?

THE TECH · 12-19-2011, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by M3Power55

So what you say is the correct way of lower the car?

Springs are fine. You don't need spacers to lower the car.

Raptor251 · 12-19-2011, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by THE TECH

Springs are fine. You don't need spacers to lower the car.

Yeah but you need spacers to get all the bitches!

THE TECH · 12-19-2011, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Raptor251

Yeah but you need spacers to get all the bitches!

Hoes from different area codes!

IMG · 12-19-2011, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by THE TECH

Hoes from different area codes!

LMAO

akina335 · 12-19-2011, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Raptor251

Yeah but you need spacers to get all the bitches!

THIS!

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M3Power55 Second Lieutenant 25 Rep 207 Posts Drives: M3 alpine White Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: CA iTrader: (1)	dropping and putting spacer ? Hey everyone i have been going back and fort about droping my car and puting spacers, and i have a few question it seems like i cant realy get a solid answer from anyone. so my question is, does lower the E92 M3 ZCP and puting spacers mess up the handleing of the car or does it make it better, i have herd diff things some say that since spacers wideing out the wheel base it gives it better grip and lower makes it handle better i dunno what to belive. Can anyone help me out with this?
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///My5UV Lurker 78 Rep 812 Posts Drives: YMB F80, SS E90 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Austin iTrader: (0)	Both of those changes will lower the sprung mass and roll center of the car, so in theory they would help handling at the limit on smooth pavement. However, depending on how you go about lowering the car, you might end up riding the bump stops more often in high lateral loads or when hitting bumps on even moderate loads, which would cause a step function in spring rate which will immediately loosen whichever end hits the stops first. That would be much worse handling. So to lower it correctly, you have to increase the spring rate to prevent bottoming out, which can actually hurt handing on less-than-perfect surfaces, especially if the dampers aren't modified to match, all while giving you a worse ride. As for spacers, they're going to put more stress on your wheel bearings, so you have to be extra vigilant about checking them, although a few millimeters never seemed to make a difference on my cars. __________________
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