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09-02-2009, 09:49 PM | #1 |
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Had a chance to do some 60-130 Vbox, "Performance Box" pulls to see how my modded M3 stacks up against others At the same time I did some pulls with my buddies stock C63, got him pretty good, approx. 5 CLth's.
That same day he had went and had his ECU tuned, lol, but he made 60whp! I might be in trouble now! We will do a rematch soon to measure his gains. 60-130 times are a very popular method with Porsche enthusiasts for measuring a cars straight line performance, besides 1/4 mile runs. My VFE Supercharged E46 M3 did it in 8.6. http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/9...standings.html I managed a 10.87 with the E92, makes sense based on the many comparo runs I've done. I think I can do better though, as it's been very hot here in socal, with a muffler, some weight reduction, and maybe a more aggressive tune, low 10's could be doable. One thing to note in the graph is the shifts are almost undetectable, virtually no momentum loss with the DCT Tranny. Mods are in my Sig, I made 363whp on a Mustang. Here's a list of other cars 60-130 times. 5.61 - E46 M3 HPF Stage 2.5 1 shift 6.86 - E46 M3 HPF Stage 2 7.86 - E46 M3, ESS SC Built motor, 16psi, 2 shifts 8.46 - C63 AMG, bolt ons-519whp, 2 shifts 8.59 - E46 M3 BHS SC, built motor 16psi, 2shits 8.67 - E46 M3 VFE Stage 2, MS109, 2shifts 8.84 - E92 M3 ESS VT-575 SC, DCT, 3 shifts 8.95 - E92 M3 Gintani Supercharger Stage 1 SC, DCT, 3shifts 9.34 - E92 335I, JB3 Tip, Water-Meth, 2 shifts 9.5 - Porsche 997TT 9.6 - Ferrari F50 10.06 - 996TT with ECU flash / 1 shift 10.1 - Ferrari F430 10.3 - BMW M6, stock, 2 shifts 10.48 - E60 M5, stock, 2 shifts 10.48 - C63 AMG with headers and flash 10.70 - E92 M3, Bolt Ons, DCT, 3 shifts 10.93 - E63 AMG 10.9 - Lamborghini Murcielago 10.97 - Nissan GT-R 11.05 - E92 M3 6MT, RDsport Stroker RS46, 2 shifts 11.0 - Shelby GT500, stock, 2-shifts 11.28 - E92 M3, Bolt ons, 2 shifts 11.7 - Ferrari Challenge Stradale 11.87 - 997 GT3 RS 12.1 - Lamborghini Gallardo 12.2 - 996tt stock 12.64 - Stock DCT E92 M3 12.9 - Stock 6MT E92 M3 Coupe 13.7 - Stock E46 M3 (freak car) / 1 shift 14.3 - Stock E39 M5 / 1 shift __________________ Last edited by DLSJ5; 02-15-2010 at 10:45 AM.. |
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I would love to see the results!
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The funny thing is my buddy is borrowing mine, lol, he's had it forever, and I borrowed the Vbox I have now from another friend. I'm going to try and get mine back ASAP! This is good news, thanks Robert, I'm anxious to see what the stroker does!!
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Nice numbers Drew...and im def. interested on the results of the stroker as well.
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give it to nightrider an tightie...would love to see what the S/C's can do too!!!
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I have a p-box I think its almost the same as a v-box right???
I will put run together tonight and see what happens. With my bolt ons. Drew. What gear where you in @2nd-4th right! ****NO DOWNHILL RUNS PLEASE****** I have found out that you can gain about 1sec. if you find a nice down smooth slope
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I shifted twice, started at around 30mph and went WOT from there. My run was approved by Divexxtreme on 6speed, otherwise I wouldnt' have posted it here. You are allowed up to a 3.0% decline.
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08 E92 M3 DCT - Bolt Ons - 60-130MPH 10.71s - 11.88 @ 118MPH - 377WHP ESS VT2-625 SC 60-130MPH 6.80s - 11.30 @ 129.3 MPH 586WHP / 379WTQ ESS VT3-750 - 60-130MPH 6.14s - 10.81 @ 135.13 MPH 690WHP/463WTQ Shift-S3ctor E92 M3 - 1/2 Mile Trap Speed WR - 174.13 MPH |
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They are friends of mine, and welcome to use it anytime!
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08 E92 M3 DCT - Bolt Ons - 60-130MPH 10.71s - 11.88 @ 118MPH - 377WHP ESS VT2-625 SC 60-130MPH 6.80s - 11.30 @ 129.3 MPH 586WHP / 379WTQ ESS VT3-750 - 60-130MPH 6.14s - 10.81 @ 135.13 MPH 690WHP/463WTQ Shift-S3ctor E92 M3 - 1/2 Mile Trap Speed WR - 174.13 MPH |
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Thanks Bro!
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08 E92 M3 DCT - Bolt Ons - 60-130MPH 10.71s - 11.88 @ 118MPH - 377WHP ESS VT2-625 SC 60-130MPH 6.80s - 11.30 @ 129.3 MPH 586WHP / 379WTQ ESS VT3-750 - 60-130MPH 6.14s - 10.81 @ 135.13 MPH 690WHP/463WTQ Shift-S3ctor E92 M3 - 1/2 Mile Trap Speed WR - 174.13 MPH |
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That is a great time! But what I meant was or other people who is going to post the their times. for not using a downhill. nice to know we get a 3% decline. anything helps.
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PG - I have the Racelogic, "Performance Box" I believe the unit you are interested in will capture 60-130 runs!
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08 E92 M3 DCT - Bolt Ons - 60-130MPH 10.71s - 11.88 @ 118MPH - 377WHP ESS VT2-625 SC 60-130MPH 6.80s - 11.30 @ 129.3 MPH 586WHP / 379WTQ ESS VT3-750 - 60-130MPH 6.14s - 10.81 @ 135.13 MPH 690WHP/463WTQ Shift-S3ctor E92 M3 - 1/2 Mile Trap Speed WR - 174.13 MPH |
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Very good results - interesting the effect of DCT during gear change, especially on the 2nd to 3rd gear shift...you get a momentary spike of 0.674g from this. This surely must contribute partially to DCT's superior performance over MT.
I'm guessing from your graph you were making about 0.5g at your shift point from 2nd to 3rd gear, at around 68mph....this equates to real world power output of ~339WHP assuming your car weighed 3740lbs.... Interestingly I estimate that similar mods to yours would result in ~ 10% more power and ~ 15% more torque than stock (i.e. 456HP/332lbft). Running M3 DCT Coupe with +10% power and +15% peak torque through CarTest simulator and a -2.97% road grade, I get a 60-130mph time of 10.90s (shift time set at 0.03 seconds) Keep up with the excellent information - I keenly watch all of your comparos on YouTube... |
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How much does the Vbox run? I would definitely be interested in picking one up.
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I guess just to give you a ruff idea. I paid $575USD but I think its cheaper in the States.
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Excuse my ignorance guys but what is a Vbox?
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Hey PG are you going to set up a DATA base???
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Its a real popular test that we have here in Taiwan. So you have got my vote. hope the rain stops, if it does I will try to get some information for you.
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