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what is with stock vs tuned comparison? is this some sort of contest to prove who has a bigger sexual organ or something? "blah blah blah my car is fast, and it costs less" "my mad modz are teh win!"
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debate as we may, even when some cars are tuned they still don't carry the driving enjoyment of other vehicles, but we all have our criteria for driving enjoyment, hence some people buying a cheaper car and modding it, oppose to purchasing a vehicle from a performance division of a manufacturer, but I prefer purchasing a fast car from the start, and then if I want to I mod, of course with the knowledge that the mods might void my warranty.
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I would dare say that 99% of the people on this forum like to drive as a HOBBY. It's our individual appreciation of the car and the driving EXPERIENCE. Gee, I bought a brand new baseball bat, but A-Rod (professional baseball player) still hits better than me with his 10 year old bat...
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12-07-2008, 04:07 PM | #30 |
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Why our Most M3 drivers un intelligent and pig headed
No VW GTI is going to keep up with me at the Ring, I can guarantee you that. Not even if Sabine was driving it. I have not been passed by a Ring Taxi in my M3 yet.
I hardly doubt that I would bet my M3, she would definately destroy you. Obiously you didn't see that top gear episode where she pulled a faster lap in a van compared to some blokes jaguar. Sabine knows that track in and out. You would be seeing her tail lights for awhile then she would just dissapear!! I wonder what they put in the water in the USA. Are you guys sure there not drugging you guys. All thinking with the little head, my guns bigger than yours whoopy due, go cry me a river. Can anyone tell me why M3 drivers in the USA are mostly retarded, is it you cant drive your car to it;s full potential. is it all the roads littered by traffic and stop lights. It must suck to have your hands tied with all thoughs traffic laws. I must say U.S. drivers rank in the top 3 of i don't know how to drive to save their lives!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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BTW, I doubt you own a M3 and Sabine did not go faster in the van around the Ring than Clarkson in the Jag. I'll be there in March, bring your daddy's M3 and we'll see who's going to see who's tail lights. Stupid ass. |
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12-08-2008, 12:39 PM | #32 | |
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you're going to offend individuals even more writing like that. Unless your a top notch driving instructor (probably not by the way you write), I'd probably retract a statement like that, and even if you are, there is always someone better, I'm sure I can find quite a bit of Americans that can out drive you. the only thing I agree with you on is that, drivers equal, an inferior car will not pull a better lap time. But I know of at least 2 modded VW GTI's that will probably pull better lap times than quite a few stock high performance cars. |
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12-08-2008, 03:23 PM | #33 |
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First of all i don't want to get in a pissing match. As you kno w I live in Trier there is a rather large air base nearby called Spangdahlem. I think there are a few thousand of them in the area. For sure Germans get a lot more driver training. Sometimes I wonder if the Americans in the area have had any. They don't no any of thr right aways they seem to always try and stay in the left lane. Drive super slow around are nice windy roads. It was published in our local paper that since September there have been over 300 acidents that caused Hospitalization or totaling of a car. You might be one of the few that might have some skills; but how much do you actually no about German traffic laws. Do you no when your allowed to drive with fog lights. Did you no if you have to use your windshield wipers you have to have your lights on. Do you no when to use the rear fog light. Do you think all the autobahns have no speed limit. Did you no it's German law to have snow tires from November till April. All i can say as a whole Germans are far superior drivers considering Ive been to the states quite a few times.
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12-08-2008, 04:22 PM | #34 | |
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You realize there are more people in the US than in Germany right? Of course as a whole the driver education there is better. You also realize it differes state to state in the US don't you? I'm sure it would be difficult to find a driver in the US that would hand you your ass on any course. Please, quit with this German superiority nonsense. I have been to Germany, driven through Germany, rode a bike through Germany. The majority of your roads suck. You have junky little roads through towns and you have to watch for cows crossing or a tractor riding through. The autobahn is overrated and I saw my fair share of shitty German drivers. This is coming from someone that travels to europe every year and has been to Germany maybe 20 times since I was 5 years old. Newsflash: Bad drivers exist in every country. Germans think too highly of themselves, I think it started in 1914. They did not learn their lesson until 1945. |
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In reference ot the traffic laws, yes, knowing them makes you a driver less subject to a civil traffic offense. But anyone can learn traffic laws. Nationality has nothing to do with how well you drive on a track, road course, 1/4 mile, or street. So advising individuals they can't drive unless they are German is ridiculous. I encountered a German individual at Moroso a year ago and while he was a good driver, he was not the best one on the track. running the 1/4 mile is also not as easy as you might think. It's hard to duplicate magazine times and beat them, you must put the power down, launch good and get your 60' times down pat and shift well. your statements don't seem objective but rather biased. |
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You state you have seen your fair share of bad German drivers, but wouldn't you agree that Germans are in general better drivers than here in the US? If you choose death rates as a metric (which roughly corresponds to serious accident rate) I think you must. I certainly do: The statistics for fatalities per 100,000 persons, deaths per million vehicle km (or mi), freeway vs. autobahn deaths per vehicle km, etc. all show much lower results in Germany than in the US. Of course all of these metrics account for the fact that there are more folks here in the US. That last one was pretty harsh. I'd even go so far as to say xenophobic. Do you really think German attitudes about driving and safety have anything to do with politics? |
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Huh? You don't even make any sense. You are way too sensitive. Fact is, Germans do think way too highly of themselves and that philosophy got them into a bit of trouble in the past. Let's just pretend like history did not happen, right? The mods should ban you.
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How about the fatalities per car on the road? I would like to see that. More people drive in California alone than in all of Germany. Of course Germans attitudes have to do with politics. What do I know, I was a history major. Xenophobia has nothing to do with assessing historical fact. If I was Xenophobic, why would I leave the country in the first place? I don't think you understand the definition of the word. |
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Forget the VW part... there are all makes with stupid f*cks trying to race. my350Z, MBWorld, E90post... tools are tools, just badged differently
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hahahaha, this german driver is superior than american driver debate is nonsense
has anyone here been to a city in China? you will need mad skill to drive in Shanghai. |
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