Some Interesting Findings on the Dinan Stage 1 Kit

riyatch · 10-06-2009, 06:26 PM

it looks like Dinan raised the coupe price too and now the sedan is $100 more. the whole 10% is BS because they are raising prices at the same time. WTF?

isugoo · 10-06-2009, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by riyatch

it looks like Dinan raised the coupe price too and now the sedan is $100 more. the whole 10% is BS because they are raising prices at the same time. WTF?

Hahahahha. It's so funny. It's totally a joke.
I wish w/o debating, I ordered the coupe one yesterday. WTF.
IF it's only 100 more, I'll just go ahead order sedan version.
Thanks Dinan jacking up the price so I could make my decision so easily.

riyatch · 10-06-2009, 06:45 PM

screw dinan. i will be going with something else.

isugoo · 10-06-2009, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by riyatch

screw dinan. i will be going with something else.

Honestly at this point, I don't blame you.

aus · 10-06-2009, 08:00 PM

This is a joke. They give a coupon and then increase the price essentially the same amount. They give rebates that never come in.

Trier Germany · 10-06-2009, 10:07 PM

You should go with another brand. I personally have H&R , I have a friend with schnitzer we track our cars all the time and have no issues. I was amazed when I first got them installed the ride comfort seemed identical, until you hit the M-button and the EDC goes to sport wow this is how the car was ment to come from the factory! I aslo had a local BMW dealer install them and they had no issues installing these aftermarket springs. Hopes this helps.

doba_s · 10-07-2009, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by AMPowerJ

FWIW I didn't get rear perches with my kit and everything is fine. If I need perches now I would expect them to send me a set which of course they haven't. I was a big supporter of Dinan when I initially purchased this kit, and I have no issues with it to date ... but the fact no one can get a straight answer and this kit seems to change overnight without a proper explanation is bothersome considering the premium we spent.

Think of it this way ... none of the other springs offers provide anything other than springs so I am sure you would be fine with the coupe version if you decide to stay with this kit.

You should call them and ask this question ?

I don't think they are manufacturing those rear perches themselves, and is they re-use BMW perches from another model, it seems a bit high to pay $200 extra just for that ...

Also if you buy Stage 2 kit, the difference between E92 and E90 is a bit less ... So, maybe it makes sense to go with Stage 2 and save a bit ? But again, the sway bar in Stage 2, is it Dinan's sway bar or is it thicker sway bar from E93 M3 painted in blue?

doba_s · 10-07-2009, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by isugoo

debating... do I wanna spend more money for proper sedan kit or go with cheaper coupe kit... hmmmm.... going to order tomorrow as they have the kit instock and 10% off sale.

I say wait a bit ... They should have a bigger sale around new year ... They usually give you 10% off if you want to buy something any time ... I even got a coupon for 10% off form them ...

doba_s · 10-07-2009, 10:07 AM

I am speechless ...

"Unfortunately, the economy has not turned the corner, so we have decided to offer a 10% discount on all Dinan products "

Does this mean lets raise our price ?

doba_s · 10-07-2009, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by isugoo

0. I spoke to sales (Chris?) and he was asking to tech guy in the background. He couldn't explain exactly why they needed. But knowing their VP drives E90M3, I'm sure that guy could played some role of updating parts on the sedan from his driving experience.

1. I'm kinda thinking about getting just coupe suspension kit for my sedan if it's NOT that different parts (well-rest of the suspension products share exact same suspension kits for coupes and sedans. So I don't think it's not that different in terms of quality of ride).

2. Yes- I prefer up front 10% off over 15% rebate that I have to fill and wait like 4 months.

BTW, this guy from sales Chris he is also on this forum "550Chris"

In one of his posts he mentioned what is included in the kit ... nothing was said about special rear pads

isugoo · 10-07-2009, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by doba_s

You should call them and ask this question ?

I don't think they are manufacturing those rear perches themselves, and is they re-use BMW perches from another model, it seems a bit high to pay $200 extra just for that ...

Also if you buy Stage 2 kit, the difference between E92 and E90 is a bit less ... So, maybe it makes sense to go with Stage 2 and save a bit ? But again, the sway bar in Stage 2, is it Dinan's sway bar or is it thicker sway bar from E93 M3 painted in blue?

1. No you don't pay extra $200 for the perches anymore. Since they jacked price up on coupe to 1k, it's only $100 more. Seems very reasonable. Isn't it?

2. Good point on the state II kit. Since I don't see any single aftermarket brand sways but Dinan has one. So it's very possible they rebranded E93 one.

isugoo · 10-07-2009, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by doba_s

BTW, this guy from sales Chris he is also on this forum "550Chris"

In one of his posts he mentioned what is included in the kit ... nothing was said about special rear pads

When I called first time, he didn't know what's exactly different b/w coupe and sedan versions. So he asked me to hold and asked tech guy.

isugoo · 10-07-2009, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by doba_s

I am speechless ...

"Unfortunately, the economy has not turned the corner, so we have decided to offer a 10% discount on all Dinan products "

Does this mean lets raise our price ?

Coupe's original price: 899
Coupe's new price: 999 - 10% sale =899.1

So they actually make 10 cents more than before with sale now.
I really wish I bought it on Monday before they jacked up the price.

isugoo · 10-07-2009, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by doba_s

I say wait a bit ... They should have a bigger sale around new year ... They usually give you 10% off if you want to buy something any time ... I even got a coupon for 10% off form them ...

Really? I never really see Dinan going on sale more than 10%.
I saw 10-15% off rebates before but never seen anything going more than that.

doba_s · 10-07-2009, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by isugoo

When I called first time, he didn't know what's exactly different b/w coupe and sedan versions. So he asked me to hold and asked tech guy.

It's every time like that ... Every time I call, he needs to check this or that ... it seems like he doesnt know anything and he is the sales person covering West coast and part of the Central US ...

isugoo · 10-07-2009, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by doba_s

Also if you buy Stage 2 kit, the difference between E92 and E90 is a bit less ... So, maybe it makes sense to go with Stage 2 and save a bit ? But again, the sway bar in Stage 2, is it Dinan's sway bar or is it thicker sway bar from E93 M3 painted in blue?

I just checked spec for Dinan sway bar and the E93 M3 sway bar.

E93 OEM Sway = 28 mm
Dinan Sway = 28.5 mm

I guess it's not the same one but per Tischer, I can get sway and the bushings for under 200. I think that's the best bang for the bucks sway bar upgrade.

isugoo · 10-08-2009, 06:17 PM

I just ordered Dinan kit for sedan (along with exhaust).
I'll take pictures and inspect if I see any BMW part# on the spring perches. (I should receive by early next week but shipped directly to my shop so I won't see till next sat.)

doba_s · 10-08-2009, 06:30 PM

keep us posted ... and it would be cool if you can take pictures of those parts as well ...

isugoo · 10-08-2009, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by doba_s

keep us posted ... and it would be cool if you can take pictures of those parts as well ...

Will do. I really don't agree with their pricing but I want minimal drop with slightly tighter feel so Dinan was really the only option.

But I'll def take pictures (as I'm going to waste 4 hours at the shop watching them install on next sat morning) of the parts so hopefully, other people can just buy those parts from the parts dept.

So far we know:

a. Front bumpstops: E36M3 bump stops.
b. Front guide support: Stock with about 3 mm shaved.
(that's all coupe owners to know)
c. Rear spring perches: I'll find out next sat.
(for sedan owners)

MrHarris · 10-08-2009, 07:06 PM

Awesome. So you're changing to Dinan front sway only? Let us know if you feel a difference and if it's worth the $500.

isugoo · 10-08-2009, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MrHarris

Awesome. So you're changing to Dinan front sway only? Let us know if you feel a difference and if it's worth the $500.

No, I'm getting Dinan stage I suspension, not the sway.

doba_s · 10-08-2009, 08:48 PM

Can you also measure the Front guide support Stock vs Dinan ?

I am in the same boat man ... I hate their customer service and it is kind of lame to give 10% off and raise your prices by 10% ... but I do like their little drop ... H&R springs were to stiff for me ...

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riyatch Lieutenant 15 Rep 474 Posts Drives: e90 M3 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Vegas iTrader: (1)	it looks like Dinan raised the coupe price too and now the sedan is $100 more. the whole 10% is BS because they are raising prices at the same time. WTF?
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riyatch Lieutenant 15 Rep 474 Posts Drives: e90 M3 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Vegas iTrader: (1)	screw dinan. i will be going with something else.
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aus Major General 892 Rep 9,032 Posts Drives: Odysse Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seal Beach, CA iTrader: (10)	This is a joke. They give a coupon and then increase the price essentially the same amount. They give rebates that never come in. __________________ Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
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Trier Germany Banned 58 Rep 1,084 Posts Drives: 2009 E-90 M3 space gray Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Deutschland KreisTrier auf Autobahn 64 & Tucson AZ iTrader: (1)	You should go with another brand. I personally have H&R , I have a friend with schnitzer we track our cars all the time and have no issues. I was amazed when I first got them installed the ride comfort seemed identical, until you hit the M-button and the EDC goes to sport wow this is how the car was ment to come from the factory! I aslo had a local BMW dealer install them and they had no issues installing these aftermarket springs. Hopes this helps.
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doba_s Major General 405 Rep 6,107 Posts Drives: X7 l Cayenne l 997.2RS Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Danville iTrader: (26)	I am speechless ... "Unfortunately, the economy has not turned the corner, so we have decided to offer a 10% discount on all Dinan products " Does this mean lets raise our price ?
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isugoo Major General 248 Rep 6,125 Posts Drives: 991.2 GTS Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Irvine, CA iTrader: (73)	I just ordered Dinan kit for sedan (along with exhaust). I'll take pictures and inspect if I see any BMW part# on the spring perches. (I should receive by early next week but shipped directly to my shop so I won't see till next sat.) __________________ PAST: F80 M3 ZCP \| 911.1 C2S \| F10 M5 ZCP \| E70 X5M \| E90 M3 \| E46 M3 \| E36 M3
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doba_s Major General 405 Rep 6,107 Posts Drives: X7 l Cayenne l 997.2RS Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Danville iTrader: (26)	keep us posted ... and it would be cool if you can take pictures of those parts as well ...
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doba_s Major General 405 Rep 6,107 Posts Drives: X7 l Cayenne l 997.2RS Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Danville iTrader: (26)	Can you also measure the Front guide support Stock vs Dinan ? I am in the same boat man ... I hate their customer service and it is kind of lame to give 10% off and raise your prices by 10% ... but I do like their little drop ... H&R springs were to stiff for me ...
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