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      06-10-2010, 09:32 AM   #89
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No it's not. I have provided you with a link to support my affirmation.
Can you show me some proof in support of your affirmation?
I've placed my bid on BMW a long time ago, but on this one I'd wait until more data comes in for the RS5. Let's revisit this topic in a few months, or better yet until the first few serious side-by-side tests and comparisons.


I do considered it has failed its purpose - given Audi's expectations for this car, a draw is a pretty grim outcome.
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      06-10-2010, 10:00 AM   #90
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AWD is absolutely a plus for 0-60. What are you talking about? 0-60 depends on launch and traction about as much as power to weight (in a range of course). I guess you haven't seen the 2.9s 0-60 by Car and Driver magazing for the Porsche 997.2 Turbo? That is a sick time. It is due to:

-AWD
-Rear weight bias
-PDK/launch control
-Power to weight ratio

Now 60-130 or even 0-100 will be much less improved by AWD.
+1. gtr is a good example.
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      06-10-2010, 12:37 PM   #91
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When shall people understand that Audi is not the better BMW, but Audi is just another german premium brand?
When shall people stop talking about cars they've never driven....let alone owned....and stop bench racing/magazine speculating.
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      06-14-2010, 03:15 AM   #92
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RS5 Slower than M3 on track

RS5 has been tested ont the Autozeitoung test track and posted 1:40.7, whereas on the same track the M3 posted 1:40.1.




http://img694.imageshack.us/f/rotationofrs5.jpg/

M3 is faster on straight line as well as on track;

http://www.fastestlaps.com/compariso...Audi_RS_5.html
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      06-14-2010, 03:29 AM   #93
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I see. So the problem is that all track times we have are for M3 6MT and not M3 7DCT (except the one on Autozeitung track). BMW has the lap time for the new M3 Competition 7DCT, but they have not released it and I don't know if they will. I think they are waiting for M3 GTS reveal and official track time of RS5 on the N-Ring.


Conclusion (a bit early):

M3 is faster than RS5 for the good driver, what most of us are not. So finally RS5 is faster for the average driver.
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      06-14-2010, 03:59 AM   #94
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.6 of a second on different days is nothing.
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      06-14-2010, 04:02 AM   #95
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agreed. great job Audi
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      06-14-2010, 05:37 AM   #96
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Conclusion (a bit early):

M3 is faster than RS5 for the good driver, what most of us are not. So finally RS5 is faster for the average driver.
I agree with the first part, but why should the RS5 be faster for the average driver? I believe they should be equally fast for the average driver.


Nevertheless, the conclusion is that us, the M3 drivers, we drive the better car for the better price, no matter how fast/slow is an RS5 in daily traffic.
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      06-21-2010, 02:00 AM   #97
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They tested the RS5 on Hockenheim....1 second slower than the M3!!

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http://www.fastestlaps.com/compariso...Audi_RS_5.html


It seems that the M3 stays the king.
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      06-22-2010, 01:45 AM   #98
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So if you go on a track and a average RS5 driver beats you on the track you are going to respond by telling him " I may have lost but I drive a better car and it is also a better bargain."
I am not going to tell him anything, as he probably would be a better driver than me...just shut up and work some more on the track skills.

But this doesn't change the fact that M3 is the better car than RS5
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      06-23-2010, 06:00 PM   #99
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I think they're both amazing cars and would love to have either of them.
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it says the new 2013 rs5 is 0-100 km at 4.1 and m3 e93 is the same... but in 1/4 mile the m3 was like .2 faster ..
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I read the entire thread, and noticed that many people were wrong with their predictions. M3 is faster. End of discussion.
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