The last "real ///M?"

Seattle S65B40 · 07-04-2011, 10:44 AM

Which one of the following vehicles, if any, best deserves the title of "last real ///M Car?"

E30 M3
E46 M3
E9X M3
E39 M5
E60 M5
E63 M6
E82 1M

We've heard that phrase thrown around here quite a bit, but do we all agree that E9X is that car? What does that even mean to you?

immiketoo · 07-04-2011, 11:03 AM

From a purist standpoint, the E30. I still think mine is a real M... For what I paid for it, it had better be!

PhillyNate · 07-04-2011, 11:42 AM

I refuse to vote because it would be an affront to what I just bought. I feel the 2005 E46 M3 ZCP was the high-water mark. As the next poster states they're ALL VERY SPECIAL. I agree

AngelinIsRich08 · 07-04-2011, 11:43 AM

I don't really know how what the criteria for a pure M car are so I'll just say the original E30 M3 and the E9x M3. I think they're all very special though (except the M6's... Those are tourers)

Seattle S65B40 · 07-04-2011, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by PhillyNate

I refuse to vote because it would be an affront to what I just bought. I feel the 2005 E46 M3 ZCP was the high-water mark.

I feel ya. I selected E46 M3, and had my 2006 ZCP in mind when I picked that. I love my E92, but I think that car was more ///M than this one, regardless of its amazing capabilities. I saw your other post in Mike's thread about these cars being strong. I haven't driven an '11 yet, but mine feels pretty solid under hard driving (minor interior rattles aside). I hope to get a new E9X before it's all said and done and with ZCP to see if it's the car I'm hoping it to be.

1sikbmr · 07-04-2011, 12:24 PM

lol@ person who chose 1m

Seattle S65B40 · 07-04-2011, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 1sikbmr

lol@ person who chose 1m

gotta love the public poll

MonteCarloM3 · 07-04-2011, 12:31 PM

lame poll ftl.

Mr. ///M3 RD · 07-04-2011, 01:10 PM

each and every one of them is and was for the time it was made. Mankind as we all know is moving forward as we speak. Each had the ///M badge and that speaks for itself.

my 2 cents.

PS I drove a e46 (2002) for 7 years and loved it as much as my e92

amglol · 07-04-2011, 01:46 PM

for now, i'd say that the e9x stays closer to the tradition of the m3 series than the planned turbo 6... a high revving na powerplant is what it's been all about.

that being said, progress is progress, and i won't dismiss the next generation until it's been tried, tested, and tortured. driving pleasure and performance is what makes an m3 ultimately, so i'll reserve judgement...

smmmurf · 07-04-2011, 01:54 PM

e46

Seattle S65B40 · 07-04-2011, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MonteCarloM3

lame poll ftl.

Then why did you vote on it?

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Originally Posted by smmmurf

e46

Technic · 07-04-2011, 03:46 PM

The E30 M3 will always be the first and only real M3 just because of the purpose of its existence: to race first, and to sell to the public in sufficient quantities to qualify for that racing second.

Any other M3 is just the business result of that homologation effort.

immiketoo · 07-04-2011, 03:48 PM

This^^^

SchnellM3 · 07-04-2011, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Technic

The E30 M3 will always be the first and only real M3 just because of the purpose of its existence: to race first, and to sell to the public in sufficient quantities to qualify for that racing second.

Any other M3 is just the business result of that homologation effort.

Seattle S65B40 · 07-04-2011, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Technic

The E30 M3 will always be the first and only real M3 just because of the purpose of its existence: to race first, and to sell to the public in sufficient quantities to qualify for that racing second.

Any other M3 is just the business result of that homologation effort.

well said brotha.

HBspeed · 07-04-2011, 06:39 PM

I voted E46 just because the E92 feels so much more refined and luxury focused compared to the comparatively much more raw E46.

This is all relative though. If the F3X M3 is a heavy dull boat that relies entirely on turbo boost and electronic trickery feel fast or sporty, the E92 will probably feel like the E46 in comparison to it.

The only reason I don't choose the E30 is because it is kind of on a level above standard M, more along of the same lines as the E46 CSL.

-=Hot|Ice=- · 07-04-2011, 06:48 PM

The e9x M is as close as "true M" gets in my opinion.

admranger · 07-04-2011, 06:51 PM

The E30 M3 was a race car homologated for the street. All of the others (and I've owned all the M3 variants and have an E90 M3 on order right now) are street cars.

Kiemyster · 07-04-2011, 08:05 PM

Its nice to see that im not the only one who feels so deeply about the E9X series.

RobH · 07-04-2011, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SchnellM3

Originally Posted by Technic
The E30 M3 will always be the first and only real M3 just because of the purpose of its existence: to race first, and to sell to the public in sufficient quantities to qualify for that racing second.

Any other M3 is just the business result of that homologation effort.

x2

Although I would be hapy to have any M car in the drive way, my list of favourites includes:

e92 Pure Edition (Australian special edition)
e46 CSL
e30 (never offically released here)

Mike V8 · 07-04-2011, 09:43 PM

E46.

View Poll Results: Which one of the following do you consider to be the last ream ///M Car?
E30 M3	27	12.50%
E46 M3	26	12.04%
E9X M3	124	57.41%
E39 M5	1	0.46%
E60 M5	1	0.46%
E63 M6	1	0.46%
E82 1M	13	6.02%
Other (specify in thread - M1 does not count)	4	1.85%
N/A - I like the direction and future that the M division is headed for.	19	8.80%
Voters: 216. You may not vote on this poll

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Seattle S65B40 Major 213 Rep 1,395 Posts Drives: 2008 e92 M3 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: PNW iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 BMW M3 [0.00]	The last "real ///M?" Which one of the following vehicles, if any, best deserves the title of "last real ///M Car?" E30 M3 E46 M3 E9X M3 E39 M5 E60 M5 E63 M6 E82 1M We've heard that phrase thrown around here quite a bit, but do we all agree that E9X is that car? What does that even mean to you? __________________ Club 6MT 2008 E92 M3 6MT, AW/Blk Ext., brushed aluminum 2006 E46 M3 ZCP 6MT Carbon blk/blk(sold) 2001 E46 325Xi 5MT Jet Blk/Blk (sold) Last edited by Seattle S65B40; 07-04-2011 at 05:35 PM..
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PhillyNate ENTHUSIAST 135 Rep 2,097 Posts Drives: 2010 Porsche Cayman Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Philadelphia iTrader: (0) Garage List 2010 Porsche Cayman [0.00]	I refuse to vote because it would be an affront to what I just bought. I feel the 2005 E46 M3 ZCP was the high-water mark. As the next poster states they're ALL VERY SPECIAL. I agree __________________ "what I'm driving here...is an ending." Jeremy Clarkson 2010 Carrara White Porsche Cayman 6mt 2014 Whiteout Toyota GT-86 6mt(Sold 05/23/15) 2011 Alpine White BMW M3 6mt ZCP Coupe(forced retirement 06/06/14) 2008 Alpine White BMW 328i 6mt Coupe(retired 06/21/11)
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AngelinIsRich08 Banned 61 Rep 708 Posts Drives: '11 X5M, '09 CTS Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: St. Louis, MO iTrader: (0)	I don't really know how what the criteria for a pure M car are so I'll just say the original E30 M3 and the E9x M3. I think they're all very special though (except the M6's... Those are tourers)
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1sikbmr Brigadier General 145 Rep 3,329 Posts Drives: F80 M3 6MT Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: New York iTrader: (16)	lol@ person who chose 1m __________________ F80 ///M3 6MT Avus Blue ZCP
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MonteCarloM3 Banned 52 Rep 576 Posts Drives: a shitty M3 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Uranus iTrader: (0)	lame poll ftl.
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amglol Private First Class 3 Rep 111 Posts Drives: 2011 E90 M3 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Texas iTrader: (0)	for now, i'd say that the e9x stays closer to the tradition of the m3 series than the planned turbo 6... a high revving na powerplant is what it's been all about. that being said, progress is progress, and i won't dismiss the next generation until it's been tried, tested, and tortured. driving pleasure and performance is what makes an m3 ultimately, so i'll reserve judgement... __________________ /// E90 M3 :: Alpine White :: Novillo Black / Carbon Leather :: Competition :: Premium :: Convenience :: MDCT :: EPS
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Technic Lieutenant General 2276 Rep 12,994 Posts Drives: 2021 i3S, 2024 i4 M50 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Florida iTrader: (18)	The E30 M3 will always be the first and only real M3 just because of the purpose of its existence: to race first, and to sell to the public in sufficient quantities to qualify for that racing second. Any other M3 is just the business result of that homologation effort.
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