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      10-31-2007, 11:36 PM   #67
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You should know better. The markups may be higher sometimes and lower other times but in our market (So. Cal.) a new M will ALWAYS command a mark up for suckers who walk on to the lot and want the car NOW. I bet the new M3's will ocassionally sell for $10k over. Sure it won't last long but it will happen, mark my words. Heck E46 M3s went regularly for $5k over and sometimes as much as $15k over.
Of course they will mark them up, but yes, it won't last more than a few months and I don't think there will be many takers..... at MSRP, yes, people will buy. But even $5000 over, no. This is not 2001. I believe that was a unique time. Did people pay a markup for the E36 M3? Markups were a byproduct of IPO money and the NASDAQ bubble. There were many buyers competing for a limited number of cars, and they had unlimited funds.

This is an M3, not a GT3 RS!
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      10-31-2007, 11:51 PM   #68
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Of course they will mark them up, but yes, it won't last more than a few months and I don't think there will be many takers..... at MSRP, yes, people will buy. But even $5000 over, no. This is not 2001. I believe that was a unique time. Did people pay a markup for the E36 M3? Markups were a byproduct of IPO money and the NASDAQ bubble. There were many buyers competing for a limited number of cars, and they had unlimited funds.

This is an M3, not a GT3 RS!
Although I agree with your opening statement my agreement ends there.

The state of the market at that time may have contributed to this effect. However, wouldn't you agree that in most metro areas there are plenty of folks with plenty of money to burn on cars, 2001 or 2008? There is always the folks who are more badge conscious, have lots of $ and too little time to plan ahead with research or deposits. I'd be willing to be the new M goes for $10k over somewhat commonly. Lastly isn't your closing sentence just a slight exaggeration, "unlimited funds"?
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It's certainly a matter of opinion, but I think there are more choices in the same price range this time around, and that will affect demand.
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It's certainly a matter of opinion, but I think there are more choices in the same price range this time around, and that will affect demand.
The same choices that were available the last time around.
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The same choices that were available the last time around.

I guess those choices just look more attractive to me now (in comparison)....

I have also considered that an M5 can be had with a considerable discount, whereas the M3 with decent options will go for full MSRP and be high 60's... putting it 10-15 away from an M5...
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I guess those choices just look more attractive to me now (in comparison)....

I have also considered that an M5 can be had with a considerable discount, whereas the M3 with decent options will go for full MSRP and be high 60's... putting it 10-15 away from an M5...
+1 to the former. That is probably the reality. The competition has gotten better.

As to the latter, some ///M5's can be had at a discount, but most are still well above the ///M3's cost. I did see an 05 ///M5 at Riverside BMW about two months ago that was priced in the mid-40k range. It was IB, SMG, etc. Nice car too!
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I did see an 05 ///M5 at Riverside BMW about two months ago that was priced in the mid-40k range. It was IB, SMG, etc. Nice car too!
Hmm.. You mean 05 ///M3? The E60 M5's came out in '06....

BTW McKenna ran an ad in the LA Times yesterday... $10,000 off MSRP for a 2008 M5. I trolled the lot at Shelly and saw about 6 of them sitting there.
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BTW McKenna ran an ad in the LA Times yesterday... $10,000 off MSRP for a 2008 M5. I trolled the lot at Shelly and saw about 6 of them sitting there.
Whoa!
Lets hope BMW lives and learns.
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