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Why not , he wants to practice right. Same concept/steps, just more of a blip. Plus it's usable in real world situations so it doesn't make sense not to practice these type of downshifts. |
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By the way, you seem to be missing the point that the most of manual rev-matching is a best-attempt approximation. Plz don't make me laugh insisting that you can actually rev-match PERFECTLY. Quote:
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So, you're not an expert and yet, you'll teach me how to?
Your car ain't pretty, anyways. Looks like sh*t, actually.
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BTW, yes my M3 is bone stock and I'm damn'd proud of it. I'd rather have my stock M3 than your hideous crap.
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I think I realize what's going on here. See, some of you MFest guys think that mod'd car = expert driver, and bone stock car = n00b driver. What a hilarious crap that is. lulz
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And dont bring the MFest community into the conversation. It's about you and me, I replied to your post in this thread as a joke, you couldnt take jokes and got offended easily by it. So why be a troll if you dont wanna get trolled. Lastly, chill out bro. Welcome to the internet. |
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Anything else, Trung? Now that you got Chris/Laidback to ban me from MFest board, shall we continue?
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Real race car drivers in real race cars use paddle shifters because they need all of the performance they can get. Wannabe race car drivers in pretend race cars drive MTs because while they are using poor driving techniques to drive their pretend race car at 40% of its capabilities and inpress the junior high school girl in the passenger seat they need to be in complete control of the car and feel connected. I suppose there is some merit to being enthusiastic about something you are not very good at but as I said the level of insistance on the superiority of an MT tends to be inversely proportional to the ability to drive one properly. CA
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I don't think that's true. Most people aren't experienced. You are. That is a big difference. Like elp_jc said (even though he was partially joking ) 99.99% of the people that own this car don't track it exclusively. I used to own a stick and drove it all the time, this is my first auto. I wanted all the bells and whistles and neat things. I don't miss the stick at all. But even though I drove a stick, I wouldn't say I am capable of perfectly rev matching. Maybe sometimes I would nail it, but I think it was more luck than anything else. I honestly don't think that the majority of people are capable of it.
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Oh boy... I love this thread =)
Personally I think there's no "honor" in driving either transmission, it's personal preference. I chose the DCT transmission simply because I wanted some change. And I just don't get the people who are claiming manual transmission gives you more fun... in what way? By doing heel-toe downshifts yourself? Maybe I'm past that phase already, but I can only find the fun in exploring the limit of the car at corners and the thrill it brings when the car pushes you tight on the back of your seat on a straitaway. Being able to downshift and blip the throttle yourself is hardly "fun", especially if you've experienced the race cars without syncros, where you'd be forced to double-clutch instead. I can even understand that some of you might enjoy going around a race track sideways, but the car downshifting and does the blipping for you takes away the fun? I don't get it. Truth be told, the DCT doesn't downshift perfectly, sometimes it does upset the car's balance due to an imperfect blip, but it's very manageable. Manual and DCT transmissions both have their own merits, so this thread will never come to an end. Let's keep our preferences to ourselves and try not to convince anyone because we won't succeed in doing that. How about just leave it as "both are great options", and call it a day? |
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I'm sorry, but THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID
I test drove a Mini Cooper yesterday, with manual. God I loved that trasmission. I hated my Z4 M Coupe 's manual.. 1 mile clutch travel, notch gearbox... Mini Cooper was so nice. Clutch pedal is heavy but not tiring. Gear knob is heavy and fits your palm nicely. Gear changes are smooth and you have the mechanical feel of engaging the gears.. Kinda missed having MT... But then I really like the DCT. I think DCT suits the M3. I only wish I was more in control while driving.. I keep sliding all over the corners
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@OP, another way of practicing I was doing at the time was to go down the gears on the freeway when passing other cars. You don't really need to downshit to take over a car in the M3, but just for the sake of practice (and excitement of lower gear) you can do it.
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