About to Buy New Tires

WangTa · 04-05-2012, 01:19 PM

Hey guys,

So I just had a service done on my '08 M3 and they noted that my tires are pretty bald - the wear bars on all four tires were even or showing. I took a look myself and agreed, the tires were pretty worn down.

So I've been searching the forums and it seems the consensus is that the Mich Pilot Super Sports are the way to go. I've got a quote for 4 tires, 255/35/19 fronts and 275/35/19 rears. Price is $301 for each front, and $372 for each back. I checked out tire rack and the price they have is cheaper by about $10 each tire - $291 fronts, and $362 rears. After taking into account shipping charges for tire rack, the prices seem pretty comparable (I guess the local shop will add tax on top of that).

I also requested road force balancing - they are quoting $30 per tire for mounting, balancing, etc, so all in $150 (incl taxes) for all four tires. Is that a reasonable price for mounting?

All in, my quote for the new tires, mounting, plus taxes is ~$1600. Wow...tires are expensive. Does this seem reasonable (for California)?

I also called another shop that does road force balancing, and while they didn't have the Mich PSS tires in stock, they did have hangook V12s, which he highly recommended and would cost about $300 less...I've only used Mich on my cars, any thoughts on Hangook V12s would be great.

Ctm309 · 04-05-2012, 01:23 PM

Right price, PSS all the way!

tibra1 · 04-05-2012, 01:24 PM

Becareful not to rub with 255 on turn in..I measured on my car with ZCP suspension and it did..you may be better off doing a 245/265 or 275

WangTa · 04-05-2012, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ctm309

Right price, PSS all the way!

Thanks for the confirmation buddy - just put in the order and getting them thrown on this afternoon!

Nautik · 04-05-2012, 01:26 PM

Just installed Pilot Super Sports 265/35/18 285/35/18 on my new Apex Arc-8s a few weeks ago. Great tire all around.

When I was doing some research on them I also saw how the tread life is very very good for that class of tire. They set a record at a race recently for lasting the longest while still only being a few positions off the top time.

Anyway great tire, very advanced compared to the rest of the field. Great price too.

As far as what you are paying, you are spot on. Not cheap unfortunately but they are worth it compared to the other options.

WangTa · 04-05-2012, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tibra1

Becareful not to rub with 255 on turn in..I measured on my car with ZCP suspension and it did..you may be better off doing a 245/265 or 275

Eh? Everything I read said the 255/275 did not rub. EH?

tibra1 · 04-05-2012, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WangTa

Eh? Everything I read said the 255/275 did not rub. EH?

Unfortunatly its not guaranteed..especially on front..rear you should be ok..best way to be certain is to measure

Every car is just a little different

m3an · 04-05-2012, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tibra1

Unfortunatly its not guaranteed..especially on front..rear you should be ok..best way to be certain is to measure

Every car is just a little different

My e90 is pretty low in the rear and on a stock wheel I run a 275/35 and it looks/fits perfect.. No rubbing, even w/ 2 people in back.

WangTa · 04-05-2012, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tibra1

Unfortunatly its not guaranteed..especially on front..rear you should be ok..best way to be certain is to measure

Every car is just a little different

Ugh. Too late now! I put the order in!

I have an '08 E90 with performance package (19s) - anyone else have this setup?

tibra1 · 04-05-2012, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by talontid

My e90 is pretty low in the rear and on a stock wheel I run a 275/35 and it looks/fits perfect.. No rubbing, even w/ 2 people in back.

Not talking about the back..talking about the front on turn in..

Yes there is a chance of rubbing..mine did

Car54 · 04-05-2012, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautik

Just installed Pilot Super Sports 265/35/18 285/35/18 on my new Apex Arc-8s a few weeks ago. Great tire all around.

When I was doing some research on them I also saw how the tread life is very very good for that class of tire. They set a record at a race recently for lasting the longest while still only being a few positions off the top time.

Anyway great tire, very advanced compared to the rest of the field. Great price too.

As far as what you are paying, you are spot on. Not cheap unfortunately but they are worth it compared to the other options.

What race was this?

Car54 · 04-05-2012, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tibra1

Not talking about the back..talking about the front on turn in..

Yes there is a chance of rubbing..mine did

Were they PSS and what were they rubbing?

WangTa · 04-05-2012, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tibra1

Not talking about the back..talking about the front on turn in..

Yes there is a chance of rubbing..mine did

Thanks tibra - sorry if this is a stupid question, but what exactly do you mean by "turn ins"? Is that when you turn the car to the left or right 100%?

tibra1 · 04-05-2012, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WangTa

Thanks tibra - sorry if this is a stupid question, but what exactly do you mean by "turn ins"? Is that when you turn the car to the left or right 100%?

When you turn the steering wheel full lock left to right (u turns, tight turns etc)..the tire can rub on the inner fender liner..some live with it..just wanted to let you know that it is possible

tibra1 · 04-05-2012, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Car54

Were they PSS and what were they rubbing?

Yes inner fender liner

WangTa · 04-05-2012, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tibra1

When you turn the steering wheel full lock left to right (u turns, tight turns etc)..the tire can rub on the inner fender liner..some live with it..just wanted to let you know that it is possible

Is there anyway to adjust for this should it happen? Or do you just need to get different size tires?

tibra1 · 04-05-2012, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WangTa

Is there anyway to adjust for this should it happen? Or do you just need to get different size tires?

You have some options..alignment settings (camber)..spacers..or just dont turn lock to lock

Since you ordered them already give em a try and see how it goes..I personally just did 245/265 b/c I didnt want any headaches. ZCP suspension sits lower than yours so you may be ok

Nautik · 04-05-2012, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Car54

What race was this?

24 Hours of Le Mans in 2010

Supposedly the PSS's are designed based on these record setting tires used in the race for much better tire wear.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....ot+Super+Sport

Car54 · 04-05-2012, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tibra1

Yes inner fender liner

Did you say the rubbing was with PSS's?

Car54 · 04-05-2012, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautik

24 Hours of Le Mans in 2010

Supposedly the PSS's are designed based on these record setting tires used in the race for much better tire wear.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....ot+Super+Sport

Score one for the Michelin marketing team!

Win on Sunday, sell on Monday!

tibra1 · 04-05-2012, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Car54

Did you say the rubbing was with PSS's?

Yes

OC3 · 04-05-2012, 03:07 PM

Ran 255f/275r PSS on ZCP suspension/wheels & no rubbing.

04-05-2012, 01:19 PM	#1
WangTa First Lieutenant 35 Rep 335 Posts Drives: E90 M3, E46 m3, Z4 M Coupe Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bay Area, CA iTrader: (0)	About to Buy New Tires - Quick Confirmation Needed Hey guys, So I just had a service done on my '08 M3 and they noted that my tires are pretty bald - the wear bars on all four tires were even or showing. I took a look myself and agreed, the tires were pretty worn down. So I've been searching the forums and it seems the consensus is that the Mich Pilot Super Sports are the way to go. I've got a quote for 4 tires, 255/35/19 fronts and 275/35/19 rears. Price is $301 for each front, and $372 for each back. I checked out tire rack and the price they have is cheaper by about $10 each tire - $291 fronts, and $362 rears. After taking into account shipping charges for tire rack, the prices seem pretty comparable (I guess the local shop will add tax on top of that). I also requested road force balancing - they are quoting $30 per tire for mounting, balancing, etc, so all in $150 (incl taxes) for all four tires. Is that a reasonable price for mounting? All in, my quote for the new tires, mounting, plus taxes is ~$1600. Wow...tires are expensive. Does this seem reasonable (for California)? I also called another shop that does road force balancing, and while they didn't have the Mich PSS tires in stock, they did have hangook V12s, which he highly recommended and would cost about $300 less...I've only used Mich on my cars, any thoughts on Hangook V12s would be great.
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Ctm309 First Lieutenant 15 Rep 361 Posts Drives: '09 M3 AW Carbon roof DCT '11 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Norwalk, Ct./Port Washington, N.Y. iTrader: (7)	Right price, PSS all the way! __________________ 2009 M3 Alpine, carbon roof, Akra slip on. 2011 335ix, Le mans Blue, Black Dakota, M-sport, PE Exhaust, VMR VB3's, ZCP 359m's, JB Stage-2, H&R Coilovers.
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Nautik Captain 37 Rep 636 Posts Drives: 2009 AW M3 DCT Join Date: May 2010 Location: NoVA iTrader: (0)	Just installed Pilot Super Sports 265/35/18 285/35/18 on my new Apex Arc-8s a few weeks ago. Great tire all around. When I was doing some research on them I also saw how the tread life is very very good for that class of tire. They set a record at a race recently for lasting the longest while still only being a few positions off the top time. Anyway great tire, very advanced compared to the rest of the field. Great price too. As far as what you are paying, you are spot on. Not cheap unfortunately but they are worth it compared to the other options. __________________ 2009 e92 M3 - AW DCT - Apex Arc8s - Corsa
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