Rod Baring Issue Holding Me Back

WJSM5 · 10-19-2015, 05:21 PM

Hey Guys,

I drove a friends E92 over the weekend and I fell in love. The high revving V8 compared to my F10 M5s V8 was insane. I have to have an E92 M3. I was reading a little about the car and stumbled upon a thread about the rod bearing issue and its hefty 2500 price tag every 50K miles or so. So my question is, should the rod bearing issue on an E92 (supercharged) keep me away? Or is it more likely that I wont experience it if I keep the car properly maintained.

Will

IIAp3x · 10-19-2015, 05:28 PM

Buy one! Your more likely to get hit by lightning than to have rod bearing issues...

mazing M3 · 10-19-2015, 05:32 PM

Buy the car. I am never getting rid of mine. Its a high performance car. Keep the maintance up and you will be fine. Just started it the other day and put a big ass smile on my face.

Z K · 10-19-2015, 05:35 PM

It's not $2500 every 50k miles - its a one time install. The OEM bearings were not a very good design for the engine is why it is causing failures.

Once you replace it with good aftermarket bearings, you should never have to touch it again.

Emm Tree · 10-19-2015, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Z K

It's not $2500 every 50k miles - its a one time install. The OEM bearings were not a very good design for the engine is why it is causing failures.

Once you replace it with good aftermarket bearings, you should never have to touch it again.

Even if it was $2500 every 50k, that would still seem reasonable. Service 2 on the e46 M3 wasn't cheap and that was a "routine" maintenance item.

Barring additional bearing complications or the baring of new problems with the S65 motor, bearings should have no bearing on your purchase decision.

Redd · 10-19-2015, 07:35 PM

I've been told by every BMW mechanic I've asked that they seldom see a rod bearing issue, and never in cars after 09. I had the same concerns as you when I got my M3 3 months ago but it appears more to be the exception than the norm.

Z K · 10-19-2015, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Emm Tree

Even if it was $2500 every 50k, that would still seem reasonable. Service 2 on the e46 M3 wasn't cheap and that was a "routine" maintenance item.

Barring additional bearing complications or the baring of new problems with the S65 motor, bearings should have no bearing on your purchase decision.

Well, that is just the bearings.

The M3 also has other pricey issues such as throttle actuators which fail at about 60k miles and the AC evaporator leaking that plagues every E90 model car.

8600RPM · 10-19-2015, 08:01 PM

It's so worth it. Get a catless xpipe and enjoy 8400 rpm redline. So worth it

WJSM5 · 10-19-2015, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Redd

I've been told by every BMW mechanic I've asked that they seldom see a rod bearing issue, and never in cars after 09. I had the same concerns as you when I got my M3 3 months ago but it appears more to be the exception than the norm.

What about 08s?

redpriest · 10-19-2015, 09:17 PM

106,000 miles on my 2011, 66k of them put on by me. 9 track days and an autocross. 4000+ redlines, most of them put on by me. I hang out > 6000 rpm on the track.

Original bearings. I will probably change them down the line, but my engine has been rock solid so far. I keep a line of credit open just in case I need that extra engine

- but I love driving this car around. Was supposed to be a weekend car for me, but it's become 80% of my daily driving.

SpacegrayMe90 · 10-19-2015, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mazing M3

Buy the car. I am never getting rid of mine. Its a high performance car. Keep the maintance up and you will be fine. Just started it the other day and put a big ass smile on my face.

" I am never getting rid of mine" I could not agree more. As long as my car does not become a money pit, I hope to keep it forever.

stevelp99 · 10-19-2015, 10:58 PM

Go for it, the rod bearing issue was a concern I looked while researching before purchasing my 11' E90 M3, but after a quick test drive I threw any of that concern out the window. It doesn't seem as big of an issue through out the lifespan of the E90 platform (smallest group is often the most outspoken and gets the most attention when concerning problems). If you do supercharge I would upgrade the bearings as a precaution, just as you would reinforce any weakness in a vehicle when adding power. Aside from that buy and enjoy as there are plenty of other things that could go wrong that cost just as much if not more, so it doesn't make sense to worry about 1 specific issue.

kb9uwu · 10-20-2015, 07:14 AM

Great. First it was rod bearing hysteria, now rod barings.

BimmerRookie · 10-20-2015, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by kb9uwu

Great. First it was rod bearing hysteria, now rod barings.

lol

WJSM5 · 10-20-2015, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by kb9uwu

Great. First it was rod bearing hysteria, now rod barings.

There's always that guy. But no one likes that guy. Excuse me for typing it wrong in the title.

M3FISH · 10-20-2015, 11:40 AM

Do eeeeeeeeeeet! If I was worried I wouldn't own 2 of them. You can also just buy an extended warranty.

Blindside_137 · 10-20-2015, 11:41 AM

My dream has been an E90 or E92 as well and yes its scary to think of what could go wrong or what could happen.

But that is no way to live life. If it is a big enough fear, fork out the money for preventive maintenance or get an extended warranty. M cars will always be and have always been more expensive to buy and more expensive to maintain. But most everyone will tell you it is completely worth it.

bimmerfrk · 10-20-2015, 12:26 PM

Tell me of one performance car that has not had serious or catastrophic failure....

Get over it, man up, or put your skirt on and GTFO

SunnyD · 10-20-2015, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kb9uwu

Great. First it was rod bearing hysteria, now rod barings.

Is that a separate part #? I tried looking it up on realOEM but couldn't find it

Flying Ace · 10-20-2015, 12:36 PM

Every car is a ticking time bomb. Have you considered a bicycle?

Emm Tree · 10-20-2015, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SunnyD

Is that a separate part #? I tried looking it up on realOEM but couldn't find it

Not a "what," a "who." I believe OP is asking if he should buy Rod's car. Based on his Facebook page, I would be verrrrry skeptical.

https://www.facebook.com/rod.baring

kb9uwu · 10-20-2015, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by WJSM5

There's always that guy. But no one likes that guy. Excuse me for typing it wrong in the title.

Actually, each "bearing" in your post/title was baring, not just the title, but your secret is safe with me

Is that a stripper name? Rod Baring.

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