ApexRaceParts - GT4 style brake duct PREVIEW

Eddy@ApexWheels · 09-20-2011, 08:34 PM

We have heard no updates from the new backing plate manufacturer. We reserved all our completed ducts for them so that they could distribute complete kits to members.

Because that has not happened, there will be a commercial thread created for just the ducts Sept 21st. I can't discuss anything more commercial then that in this post. People can post there, while this would remain a technical thread.

I'm embarrassed to see that these have stalled again after passing the opportunity on to far more capable hands.

Chrisfast · 09-20-2011, 09:35 PM

Can you at least post a link to the thread? Thanks!

1MOREMOD · 09-20-2011, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chrisfast

Can you at least post a link to the thread? Thanks!

yeah me too im still interested in the 3 inch ducts as discussed today.

E90///M3` · 09-20-2011, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paintpro21

We have heard no updates from the new backing plate manufacturer. We reserved all our completed ducts for them so that they could distribute complete kits to members.

Because that has not happened, there will be a commercial thread created for just the ducts Sept 21st. I can't discuss anything more commercial then that in this post. People can post there, while this would remain a technical thread.

I'm embarrassed to see that these have stalled again after passing the opportunity on to far more capable hands.

waiting for the new thread...

Grail05 · 09-21-2011, 10:09 AM

we need an update

Eddy@ApexWheels · 09-21-2011, 01:54 PM

thread created

adc · 02-17-2012, 04:18 PM

Do you guys have any pics of the recommended flex hose routing inside the wheel well?

I'm asking because I did a DYI duct that exits in the wheel well, but did not take this farther to the backing plate because:
- I am not sure how to route the hose
- I don't have a clamping solution in the wheel well

I could engineer the clamping solution, but only if I know how to route the duct...

ltw 11 · 02-26-2012, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adc

Do you guys have any pics of the recommended flex hose routing inside the wheel well?

I'm asking because I did a DYI duct that exits in the wheel well, but did not take this farther to the backing plate because:
- I am not sure how to route the hose
- I don't have a clamping solution in the wheel well

I could engineer the clamping solution, but only if I know how to route the duct...

Wait just a bit for HPC carbon kit. Dont know if theyll sell just the wheel well duct but your routing issue will then be solved and taken care of in style.

sleepless · 02-26-2012, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adc

Do you guys have any pics of the recommended flex hose routing inside the wheel well?

I'm asking because I did a DYI duct that exits in the wheel well, but did not take this farther to the backing plate because:
- I am not sure how to route the hose
- I don't have a clamping solution in the wheel well

I could engineer the clamping solution, but only if I know how to route the duct...

See my install here: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=652779

MaxL · 02-26-2012, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ltw 11

Wait just a bit for HPC carbon kit. Dont know if theyll sell just the wheel well duct but your routing issue will then be solved and taken care of in style.

Can you post a link to any more info about HPC carbon kit?

adc · 02-27-2012, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepless

See my install here: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=652779

Thanks, appreciated!

Is there any official link for HPC's efforts? Would like to peek to see what's coming...

ltw 11 · 03-05-2012, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MaxL

Can you post a link to any more info about HPC carbon kit?

no links, when there's one I'll post it, no prob.
I can say that the system consists of 3 CF components and basically it works by making air available (from the oem BMW undertray, through the wheel well) to be pumped through the rotor vanes for rotor and caliper cooling. Their in a testing phase now, actually it was tested yesterday at Thunderhill in NorCal. I'll post a pic if possible....pushing them hard.

ltw 11 · 03-05-2012, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adc

Thanks, appreciated!

Is there any official link for HPC's efforts? Would like to peek to see what's coming...

I'm pushing them and helping as much as possible to get this thing out the door.

klammer · 03-05-2012, 08:43 PM

Thanks for staying on top of this and letting us know. Keep us posted

kaiv · 04-26-2012, 08:54 PM

So about those back plates?!

SlamMan · 04-26-2012, 10:03 PM

LOL

ltw 11 · 04-28-2012, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaiv

So about those back plates?!

The carbon composite kit I mentioned is being introduced @ bimmerfest next month. You might be able to get a kit right now, not sure, or at least put your name down to get one.

kaiv · 04-30-2012, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ltw 11

The carbon composite kit I mentioned is being introduced @ bimmerfest next month. You might be able to get a kit right now, not sure, or at least put your name down to get one.

I must've skipped your post but in any case there's already a couple CF back plates on the market and I'm not interested in paying the price they command nor am I interested in CF. I'm just a weekend track junky, not fighting for the podium in Grand AM. Give me some cheap aluminum plates.

Porschefile · 04-30-2012, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kaiv

I must've skipped your post but in any case there's already a couple CF back plates on the market and I'm not interested in paying the price they command nor am I interested in CF. I'm just a weekend track junky, not fighting for the podium in Grand AM. Give me some cheap aluminum plates.

+1 to that. What's the weight difference between a thing piece of Al and the CF anyway, a couple of ounces? I'd buy cheap effective plates if they existed.

ltw 11 · 05-04-2012, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaiv

I must've skipped your post but in any case there's already a couple CF back plates on the market and I'm not interested in paying the price they command nor am I interested in CF. I'm just a weekend track junky, not fighting for the podium in Grand AM. Give me some cheap aluminum plates.

Yes, true.
cf vs aluminum should be closely priced. I know the hpc backing plates are cost effective

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porschefile

+1 to that. What's the weight difference between a thing piece of Al and the CF anyway, a couple of ounces? I'd buy cheap effective plates if they existed.

not to much about weight but about design, mfg capability of composites vs Al.
It's all good though, either flavour, cooling is a Requirement!

Porschefile · 05-04-2012, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ltw 11

Yes, true.
cf vs aluminum should be closely priced. I know the hpc backing plates are cost effective

not to much about weight but about design, mfg capability of composites vs Al.
It's all good though, either flavour, cooling is a Requirement!

Care to elaborate? Al is wayyyy cheaper than CF for every other application I've seen, why should Al brake ducts be as expensive as CF ones? I think there should be Al backing plates on the market for half what they are now or less. Tons of markup.

ltw 11 · 05-07-2012, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porschefile

Care to elaborate? Al is wayyyy cheaper than CF for every other application I've seen, why should Al brake ducts be as expensive as CF ones? I think there should be Al backing plates on the market for half what they are now or less. Tons of markup.

Whats the price for the least expensive AL and CF backing plates?

The non recoverable engineering costs are similar between both materials. AL should be much less in cost Based on just a flat AL plate with a 3" tube welded to it.

I'll post a pic of the hpc plates when I get mine installed.

View Poll Results: What brake cooling setup would you run on your car?
APEX duct only - I'll come up with my own backing plate solution	1	0.65%
APEX duct and backing plate for OEM brakes	113	73.38%
APEX duct and backing plate for a BBK	37	24.03%
My own ducts and APEX backing plates for OEM brakes	2	1.30%
My own ducts and APEX backing plates for a BBK	1	0.65%
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