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The civic guys ruined this for us... And it sounds like long weekend BS.
I can't tell you what the law says up here but there must be some reference level that can be used for comparison to determine if you exceed the threshold. I'd find out what, if any, legislation specifies an acceptable db. I'd be surprised to find out you are in violation. Take it to court and have the documentation available supporting that the system is street legal and meets all emissions regulations. I just bought an M3 which came with a Meistershaft system that seems significantly louder than the AA exhaust in the previously posted clip. To make a long story short, a few weeks ago my neighbour across the street lost control of her car in reverse and creamed my truck in my driveway along with a telephone box and a light standard so I had several officers over. Luckily she missed my less than 24 hours new M3 by millimeters (check out the skidmarks) but I had to move it out of the driveway for the tow truck. One of the officers commented about how great the car sounded! Keep us updated. I don't get down to the city too often but love the echo off the buildings. |
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Sounds like BS. Using your "trained" ears to guess how loud something is impossible and so subjective. Does Canada have specific DBA thresholds?
And that's why I'm staying in Texas (liberal noise laws and common sense is in effect)...but good luck and fight the good fight.
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Congrats on the M3. Welcome to the club!!! And I cant believe how close your neighbour came to almost hitting it....damn!!! Good luck getting everything fixed with your truck. I'll definitely keep you posted on how my situation progresses. |
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Also good luck to the OP, fight that crap.
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As far as I know, the decision is at the cop's discretion. However, if you have a muffler that is DOT/CARB legal, he can't do shit.
Unnessary noise ticket is bull, the only time I've seen that is with honking horns, or loud stereos. Which division did you get a ticket from? what intersection/area. |
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well said! i agree that a cop should never threaten anyone for something as stupid as a loud muffler. i mean just give the ticket and move on. personally i have gotten a ticket for window tints. i had 50% tints, the officer told me that tints were illegal on the front windows of the car and proceeded to give me a ticket. he let me go after that with little drama (although he did give me a warning for my exhaust). i ended up paying the $150 tint ticket and took off my front tints not long after. cops can do their jobs but they should never be a dick while doing it.
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Get a lawyer, i'm from vancouver but i go to university in london ont, i just brought my m3 over and lots of ppl have told me if anything happens here in ont on the road, get a lawyer no matter what. Goodluck
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- How did you know it was too loud? - What is too loud in dB? - Did you have a decibal reading device? If not, he has NO measurable way of saying your car was too loud. Long story short, the judge threw the ticket out. It took quite a while to go through the trial because people don't normally go through trial. By the time we were finished, the people from the next time slot were already waiting in the court room. I basically proved the cop was full of shit and people were saying to me on the way out "Hey buddy, you did a great job up there". On my way out of the court room, 1 of the 3 cops that were stuck in the room waiting for me to finish (it's not proper if they get up midway through my trial so they had to wait until I finished) comes up to me and this bitch says to me (i.e. female officer) "I KNOW YOUR EXHAUST IS ILLEGAL AND YOU KNOW IT TOO. THE NEXT TIME I PULL YOU OVER I'M GOING TO TOW YOUR CAR AWAY!!!". Stupid bitch didn't know shit because my exhaust was 100% LEGAL. I would fight this for sure because this guy is full of shit. He sounds like a jealous guy who pulls over nice cars. I'd actually like to know his name in case he was the same prick that pulled me over! |
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I received a modified exhaust ticket on my E60 M5, which just had the DINAN rear section. Cop was a complete a$$hole like your cop - they seem to enjoy making a fuss out of the fact that you drive a nice car that sounds great. Some sort of inferiority complex that their Crown Vic's dont sound as good..
They made me go to this referee station where they tested my exhaust levels, and it was past the legal limit. Car was totaled a couple of weeks later, so the citation was ultimately dropped. That's a sticky situation if he's threatening you on second offense. Sounds like someone that needs to have their badge taken away. I'm so sick of hearing about cops and their power trips. Two months ago I got an exhibition of speed ticket in LA because my exhaust was too loud, which is a misdemeanor, and it cost about four grand including the attorney and court costs. They make it really difficult to enjoy a nice car here, even when you aren't doing anything wrong. Good luck!
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there are benefits to living in shitty ol' Michigan. We have no emissions tests and you can put the craziest most street illegal shit on your car. Someone once mentioned it had to do with the fact that the big 3 test cars here and there was something in place. Don't know if that is true. I could run a full race exhaust and roll right past a police station and they just continue to radar gun for speed lol.
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The officer was from 11 Division and I got pulled over at Annette and Keele. My wife and I are both fighting our tickets with this officer and have requested court dates. Last Wednesday, we met with the officer's Inspector of the Division. We came in with the approach that we werent there to try to get out of the tickets as we plan on fighting those through the proper channels in court. We explained that we were there to bring it to his attention that we were concerned on how we were treated as citizens and that we had issue with the conduct of one of his officer's. The Inspector gave us kudos for coming in and chatting to him as he recognized that it's not an easy decision to do. He also mentioned that as citizens we have every right to voice our concerns with any officer we encounter. He said that we could file a formal complaint with the police board but we didnt feel we needed to go down that road.....yet. We explained both our situations in detail. He took notes, said he would have to review the audio and video footage, speak to the officer and get back to us with his findings which could take a month. I mentioned that I didnt appreciate being threatened in front of my children to do jail time over an exhaust. He agreed that, while the officer was correct that I technically could be summonsed to court for breaking the law repeatedly, it is extreme for an officer to threaten jail time for an exhaust. He said there's no way that would happen. So the Inspector finished by giving us his card and saying that we have nothing to fear in our neighbourhood and that if we ever felt threatened or targetted by any officer to give him a call directly. So, after this meeting we feel better about reporting this incident to a superior. Time will tell what he finds or comes back with. Regardless, we will press on and fight these charges in the court. Once I hear back from the Inspector I will post his response to our situation. Thanks again for those that have responded with support and feedback. |
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