M3 ---> 370z

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Originally Posted by bim14

I'm just not feeling my m3 the way I used to before. I used to have the S5 before with a 6 speed, and I loved that car, but the M3 with the DCT is just not making me excited to drive it. SOOO i'm considering now of letting my m3 go for a 6 speed synchrorev manual 370z, what do you guys think? any other cars i should consider? definately need a 6 speed though

OMG I AM SO NOT THE ONLY ONE!!!!!!! this is exciting to see, really. i have the exact same thoughts man. the 6 speed on the Z is fucking amazing dude! it's ridiculous. the car is nimble and fun IMHO, not as powerful, not as fine, blah blah blah but i think it's fun! it's like a go kart man.

the M3 feels a bit heavy, bulky, not as nimble as like E46 or Z4M or even the 370z... not as raw as i'd wanted it to be, im kinda over it too... well except when i'm in 3rd gear, but hey you'll enjoy the Z's 2nd gear (until u shift up)

[gthirtyfizle]

Pretty big downgrade actually

[J08M3]

RS5 if it ever comes out....

or is it out? I haven't seen one.

[FStop7]

That's quite a step down, but whatever makes you happy. I also have considered a 370z, but for the purpose of gutting it and making it a track car, while also keeping my M3.

[Koroush]

Originally Posted by bim14

I'm just not feeling my m3 the way I used to before. I used to have the S5 before with a 6 speed, and I loved that car, but the M3 with the DCT is just not making me excited to drive it. SOOO i'm considering now of letting my m3 go for a 6 speed synchrorev manual 370z, what do you guys think? any other cars i should consider? definately need a 6 speed though

That is what comes to my mind when considering a 370.


I would get another manual M3, the v6 turbo would be a nice experience.

[DC5ITR88]

why dont u wait for the rs5's to come out and jump back into a audi

[m5sparky]

wow, i drove a 350z before and its crap, major crap, they way it drives and on the quality , but hey its nissan, cant believe you would step down that much. i would get a manual m3 , or get the e46 and put a turbo on it if you wanted to.

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Originally Posted by mkoesel

I have to say it sounds to me like you are prone to making changes for the sake of having something new.

My guess is that if you go with the 370z, you'll want to switch in 6 months because you need a back seat or don't like the Japanese car's quality or something. All this changing cars can't be good for your wallet.

that actually sounds awesome! i wish the economy is more stable than this so i can switch cars every few months again!!!

Originally Posted by major_kusanagi

Actually, might not be a bad idea as long as you get the Nismo edition. Not feeling the looks, but it's got some rave reviews.

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/09/17/f...-simply-rocks/

absolutely not! the Nismo adds absolutely no value in real life. there's been major huge threads about it on all 370 forums. i'd get base + sports and fix the hell out of it

Originally Posted by Nawaaz

Don't do it. You'll regret the lack of refinement compared to the M3.

Why don't you just trade up for an M3 with a 6 speed manual?

yah but then sometimes you want something more raw... IMHO the E92 is too refined, i wish i got a E46 instead

Originally Posted by slammedm3

my buddy picked up a new 370z, while it is MUCH nicer inside and the drive is better than the 350z aswell. It is no where near the M3 in any shape, way or form.
How can you even compare these two? The only justifiiable reason to get a 370z after your M3 is if you are doing it for financial reasons, and if thats the case. Then thats cool. But theres no way you can possibly think you will enjoy a 370z more than M3.

Originally Posted by duk

are u kidding? get a 335 then

Originally Posted by 330CIZHP

If you are just bored out of your mind by the M-DCT, do yourself a favor:

Do a straight exchange for an M3 with 6 speed manual and do the best thing you can for the transmission. Remove its only flaw. Swap the 3.85 rear end out and put the available 4.10 gears in for the 6 speed manual and it will be pure perfection. The overall gearing will be much shorter than your M-DCT right now.

You will get all the fun of the 6 speed manual combined with the best possible gearing you can have in a transmission for this engine. Car will rev a lot faster and you will have more torque in every gear from any speed. Only downside is lower top speed, but who goes over 150 mph anyway?

Originally Posted by r53s65e90

M3 and 370z don't compare. To give you any helpful answer one would need to know how you are driving. Only good friends should be able to help you.

If you already feel bored with the DCT M3, then just do it.

I cannot imagine how you can feel bored with the car you have. But that stuff is subjective anyway

IDK i think you all are missing the point.. he's not comparing the 2 cars.. the guy is just not feeling his car anymore. there's a whole lot of excitement when you change cars, i absolutely miss that feeling.

and a 335??? seriously? that car is the most expensive confused non-fun car ever!

[edcvin]

You would be highly disappointed with the 370z...they always say once you go German you never go back. I had a couple of g35's prior and I must say Nissan cars are just not built solid..rattles, handling is no where near, and it just doesn't have that feel of confidence. What is true is that I feel like Nissan gets cars right the 2nd time around i.e. the new g35/g37 sedan, the fx, and I'm sure the 370z. I just feel that it still doesn't compare to a german built car. The ISF may be the exception to this. Just my opinion.

-Vin

[Jonmartin]

Originally Posted by bim14

I'm just not feeling my m3 the way I used to before. I used to have the S5 before with a 6 speed, and I loved that car, but the M3 with the DCT is just not making me excited to drive it. SOOO i'm considering now of letting my m3 go for a 6 speed synchrorev manual 370z, what do you guys think? any other cars i should consider? definately need a 6 speed though

LOL WTF....

I dunno post pics of the M3 cause I call

[M3_WC]

Originally Posted by Nawaaz

Why don't you just trade up for an M3 with a 6 speed manual?

Don't you mean trade "down".

Originally Posted by duk

are u kidding? get a 335 then

He doesn't want a car that is more boring.

[Zero.7]

Yeah. I have to agree with pretty much everyone here. The reason I would step DOWN to a 370Z is b/c of financial reason(s). That's it. If finance is not the issue, than definitely don't go to the 370Z.

Having said that, I do feel your need/want of a manual tranny though. As nice as the DCT is on the M3, I think I would get bored as well.

Like others have said....consider other cars like the S5 or wait it out and maybe take a look at the RS5! If you like the M3 but just want a stick, than definitely look at the M3 with manual tranny. Want four doors...consider the RS4 (fantastic low end torque IMO).

But if you must go Japanese, at least consider the Nissan GTR.

[NewM3driver]

I actually test drove a 370Z about 2 months ago just because I wanted to see what all the press hoopla was about.

The rev match works pretty well, but the overall impression is that of a much cheaper car that seriously lacks refinement.

The salesmen was an older guy that was very professional, and I did my best to say the car was nice and I would give him a call in a week. You know what he said to me? Direct quote "you can't expect to drive in here in a new M3 and get excited over a Z car. I knew when I saw what you were driving that this car wasn't for you."

Don't do anything crazy. Tell your dealership you don't like your tranny.... they will be very helpful in getting you into a car that you are happy with. Give it a try... start with the sales manager.

[gatorfast]

Man you guys are harsh. Obviously the 370z is not on the same level as the M3 but its not like its a daewoo or something. Its a great car for the money and will outperform virtually any car in its price range and even a lot of cars much more expensive than it. Throw some nice wheels on it and give it a drop and its damn sexy too. Sounds like that the op might be looking for if he is bored with the m3.

[panthrax]

I have a 370z 6M and it's definitely no M3 or a bmw for that matter. the car's 'feel' is quite nice on its own but the gearbox and engine is fueled by bolts and nuts that have been left behind by the engineers. if you already have an m3, maybe you'd like to get the manual version?
that said its not totally bad, the car's been trouble free and entertaining for canyon runs. all it needs is a BMW engine really. (oh.. and tire roar is as bad as the reviews said it was)

[zenderm3]

Originally Posted by major_kusanagi

Actually, might not be a bad idea as long as you get the Nismo edition. Not feeling the looks, but it's got some rave reviews.

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/09/17/f...-simply-rocks/

Now, only if I could convince my wife that she needs something a bit more exciting to replace her Infiniti crossover....

Major - like you.... really don't feel those looks.

To the OP: Have you thought about performance modding your M3? If you're going to spend money, why not put in a new exhaust or even RD Stroker?

[ching]

Originally Posted by gatorfast

Man you guys are harsh. Obviously the 370z is not on the same level as the M3 but its not like its a daewoo or something. Its a great car for the money and will outperform virtually any car in its price range and even a lot of cars much more expensive than it. Throw some nice wheels on it and give it a drop and its damn sexy too. Sounds like that the op might be looking for if he is bored with the m3.

I'd pick-up a Z4MC or a used 911S over a 370Z if you want something more raw. Yah, yah, these are more expensive cars and shouldn't be compared to the 370Z, but the OP can afford it, and money isn't an issue so who cares.

Going to a 370Z because it has syncromesh from a M3 is analogous to a sleeping with the ugly chick because you're interested in slumming it and hear that she's good at playing with your ding dong. At some point, the novelty wears off and you realize you can get the hot chick and teach her to do the same thing too.

[M3V8Driver]

How can anybody get bored with an E9x M3 w. DCT? If you're left foot gets bored, try left foot braking. Once you get good at it, it's like driving a formula car or playing PlayStation. Another thing you could do is take the car to the track, and just watch how many 370s you effortlessly blow by I mean, just look at the performance numbers... over 1/2 sec quicker 0-60, more top end, etc. Also, if you have an iPod, get one of those apps that turn it into a g-meter and go have some fun. Finally, have you discovered the in-dash timer yet?

[ihyln]

This thread has to be a joke. One of these pop up every few months... "Guys, I'm trading in for a Civic Si because it's more 'fun'"

[330CIZHP]

Originally Posted by elp_jc

You need to add even crappier fuel mileage, and engine will be SCREAMING at highway speeds, which is already bad enough stock.

You should look at the RS4 gearing. Their 6th gear is not too far apart, yet \the final drive it uses is 4.11 so M3 should be fine with 4.10.

I think that is the one thing wrong with the 6MT. It needs a shorter final drive of 4.10 and maybe a slightly taller 6th gear and it will be perfect.

[bim14]

I understand exactly what all you guys are trying to tell me. I mean i'm not THAT serious about the 370 but it's a fun little option that's not hefty on the wallet. I mean i'm not having financial issues, but it's always better to save a little money here and there in this economy. The reason I changed from my S5 was because I had some suspension issues, and it was going to take a while to fix, and very costly, and warranty wouldn't cover it because I put H&R race springs on it, and it wasn't the smartest of my choices, but the car looked and handled greatly. I like the M3 6 speed, i've driven it, but I put such a huge down payment on this M already, that I don't think it would be worth my while to break this lease, and then get another M3, and start off with a huge down payment again...but anyways here's a few pics of my m3 and S5 for those of you that wanted to see them.

[Jonmartin]

At least buy a Porsche Cayman...