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07-19-2007, 04:29 PM | #24 |
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Ya Swamp, I am starting to wonder if you are a higher up at the M division, hired to troll this forum. Not much positive to say about the other manufactures, especially the mates at PAG. Give us some real inside info.
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so yet another thread in the toilet i see.. for what it's worth, i put at least some stock in the preliminary reviews. of course i will still test drive the car myself but in reality i am not going to be able to push the car to the limit on a test drive, so reviews + test drive + price will guide my decision. if i was a m division engineer, i'd be upset at these reviews and be wondering what went wrong frankly..
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07-19-2007, 07:18 PM | #27 | |
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Despite enjoying a good debate with some P-car fans I did have much positive to say about P-cars. I love them. Always have, always will. I'd have a GT3 or turbo in my garage if I could stomach throwing that much money at a car. I REALLY like the RS4 as well. If I still lived in Alaska I'd likely already own one. Not more more inside info from me. Cheers. |
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07-20-2007, 12:56 AM | #28 |
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Each generation of car keeps getting better, they may have smoothed out the ride from the last generation but does anyone doubt the new car will absolutely beat the e46 or the RS4 in lane change & skidpad #'s. I believe these test drives are with pre-production models and they haven't worked out all the bugs yet.
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07-20-2007, 04:31 AM | #29 |
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I drove around the launch hotel in Marbella in the RS4 just to wind up the BMW reps, but they all looked pretty comfortable with the predatorial Audi being driven nearby.
To be honest, I see no reason why they should have minded, the M3 does everything an M3 should, its just that the competition have closed in and now offer a viable alternative. Once some cars are on the road you will see how distinctly different the character of each car really is, and that's what will distinguish the success of the E92 M3. There is room in the market for each of them (and the C63) but I am sure BMW will feel their pride dented by the closer comparisons. |
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Then BMW should have kept true to the M legend by bringing out a new car that was far and away the best as it pretty much always has been.
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Sure, it's just that simple...
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Amidst all this negativity what seems to become lost is just how good the new M3 actually is - whether or not it exceeds competitors by a similar margin as before should really be irrelevant. |
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I understand all this, don't worry. I just won't be getting my hands on an E92 to find out, so I have to go on the balance of these initial reports and there's just slightly more negatives than positives so far. It sounds crushingly capable, and just a little lacking in that extra zest M cars have been known to possess, from what I've read.
But know this, deep inside I want this car badly, love how it looks, would happily throw a lot of money at it to be Individual-ised and be very happy to find out for myself what it is like, but not being in that position and not likely to be, I have to work out things from text, which is all someone's opinion, for us to make of it what we will.
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