Do I need centering rings for Volks

-Ryan- · 10-13-2011, 03:38 PM

I bought a set of TE-37s but didn't get hub centric rings. Do I need them and if so what size and who has them? I'm having trouble finding any solid information on this issue.

sawzall · 10-13-2011, 04:02 PM

As long as you bought 5x120 bolt pattern TE37, you shouldn't need any centering rings.

Malek@MRF · 10-14-2011, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by -Ryan-

I bought a set of TE-37s but didn't get hub centric rings. Do I need them and if so what size and who has them? I'm having trouble finding any solid information on this issue.

You should always use hub ring adaptors if the inner bore of the wheel is larger than the BMW hub bore.

The wheels being 5x120 has nothing to do with the wheels being hubcentric. If the wheel inner bore is larger, then that means the wheels are being mounted lug-centric, and will be prone to vibration.

Use the proper sized hubring adaptors at all times if the wheels are already not hubcentric.

EAS · 10-14-2011, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by shizzle

As long as you bought 5x120 bolt pattern TE37, you shouldn't need any centering rings.

This is not true. Some of the Volk Racing wheels come in 74.1 center bore, which requires a centering ring. If the centerbore is 72.6, then you won't need it.

For example, the CE28N I had on my car required the centering rings, while the TE37SL did not.

Space Ghost · 10-14-2011, 12:23 PM

I have these wheels on my 2008 and they required rings.

-Ryan- · 10-14-2011, 12:35 PM

does anyone know where i can get them?

-Ryan- · 10-14-2011, 01:29 PM

I just mounted the wheels and went for a drive and it definitely needs centering rings.

elh0102 · 10-14-2011, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by -Ryan-

I just mounted the wheels and went for a drive and it definitely needs centering rings.

If the wheel was mounted properly, you should not have felt a vibration, even without the rings. Not to say you shouldn't use them, but the lug bolts center themselves at each hole, so if each bolt is fully engaged at the proper torque, the wheel is centered. I have a compact spare wheel with an oversize bore that I have used without a ring, and it works fine.

-Ryan- · 10-14-2011, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by elh0102

If the wheel was mounted properly, you should not have felt a vibration, even without the rings. Not to say you shouldn't use them, but the lug bolts center themselves at each hole, so if each bolt is fully engaged at the proper torque, the wheel is centered. I have a compact spare wheel with an oversize bore that I have used without a ring, and it works fine.

You might be right but I'm going to put rings on before taking the wheels back to get rebalanced. BTW, the vibration didn't start till about 75-80. I don't know if you're going that fast on a small spare tire.

calintexas · 10-14-2011, 08:57 PM

Tire Rack has the adaptor rings. PM Ben or call him to get info. You will need to know the pilot diameter of the wheels that you have in order to get the correct adaptor rings.

elh0102 · 10-14-2011, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by -Ryan-

does anyone know where i can get them?

At one time, I ordered the size I needed from 1010 Tire, so you might try them if Tire Rack doesn't have the size you need.

montreal red · 10-15-2011, 07:29 PM

i have te37SL wheels and no centering ring was needed... if the wheel was meant for e9x application, shouldnt it NOT need centering rings ?

PINHEAD · 10-15-2011, 07:36 PM

i know for a fact TE37 for E9x needs centering rings. I own a set.

red998 · 10-15-2011, 09:42 PM

i have RE30s and when went over 70mph i noticed the steering having some vibrations.
i called the place i bought the wheels from and it turned out i needed rings to make them sit correctly. The rings are very thin, but this small difference still created enough vibrations. I tried everything written on the forum however it did not work.
I called Rennspec and they helped me out. you ask the shop where u bought it from as they should be knowledgable in this area. I believe any of the big shops can help you out as long as you know the center bore. good luck it is annoying to figure this out and expensive(balancing). i was lucky when hoisted the car up and loosened the wheel a bit i noticed it had some play.

montreal red · 10-15-2011, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PINHEAD

i know for a fact TE37 for E9x needs centering rings. I own a set.

weird, were these for e9x fitment? i guess that means only the SL version doesnt need centering rings?

sawzall · 10-15-2011, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by montreal red

weird, were these for e9x fitment? i guess that means only the SL version doesnt need centering rings?

Strange... I've never seen TE37 with a bolt pattern with a bore size other than 72.6mm. Well, if i'm wrong, i'm wrong - sorry folks.

DOOBEE · 10-16-2011, 09:08 PM

My TE37 are M3 fitment and use centering rings. They are very thin but are definitely needed

EAS · 10-17-2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by montreal red

weird, were these for e9x fitment? i guess that means only the SL version doesnt need centering rings?

Yes, the TE37SL is 72.6 center bore and does not need centering rings. The normal TE37 are 74.1 center bore which is why they require the centering rings. They are made in 5x120 PCD, which is BMW fitment, but the center bore is made to the exact e9x 72.6 specifications. Hopefully that cleared it up.

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Originally Posted by shizzle

Strange... I've never seen TE37 with a bolt pattern with a bore size other than 72.6mm. Well, if i'm wrong, i'm wrong - sorry folks.

I'm guessing you've only seen Super Laps then. We've seen both SL and non-SL come through our facility, and every non-SL TE37 had centering rings on them.

montreal red · 10-17-2011, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by david @ eas

Yes, the TE37SL is 72.6 center bore and does not need centering rings. The normal TE37 are 74.1 center bore which is why they require the centering rings. They are made in 5x120 PCD, which is BMW fitment, but the center bore is made to the exact e9x 72.6 specifications. Hopefully that cleared it up.

I'm guessing you've only seen Super Laps then. We've seen both SL and non-SL come through our facility, and every non-SL TE37 had centering rings on them.

thanks for clearing up the confusion. i didnt know this because i've only owned te37SL rims (i have 2 sets...

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isugoo · 10-17-2011, 12:06 PM

sorry for really stupid question.
what's center ring? same as center caps?

tom @ eas · 10-17-2011, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by isugoo

sorry for really stupid question.
what's center ring? same as center caps?

The terminology is a bit loose, but centering Ring = hubcentric rings.

montreal red · 10-17-2011, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by isugoo

sorry for really stupid question.
what's center ring? same as center caps?

they look like this... they make your wheel fit your hub if the bore on the wheel is too large.

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