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      05-31-2011, 10:41 PM   #1
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e92 m3 50,035 miles and NOW the problems are comming

I had the same thing happen to me on Friday of last week when I brought it into the dealership at 49,994 miles. I picked it up today and had another ignition coil go bad on me (probably a different cylinder)... I am bringing it in tomorrow again see if I can get away with getting it done for free or maybe my extended maintenance warranty (I spent $3k on that) might cover it (it does say spark plugs, but doesn't say anything about ignition coils)








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      05-31-2011, 10:48 PM   #2
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gl and let us know how it goes
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      05-31-2011, 10:59 PM   #3
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gl and let us know how it goes
thanks. I have a question, lets say that they don't want to replace under warranty and offer to sell me an ignition coil (they go for $60-$70), how do I go about resetting the fault code(s) after installation?
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      05-31-2011, 11:02 PM   #4
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BMW is good about fixing issues if you're just out of warranty. If they are previously documented issues before your warranty expired then they are under law requried to deal with them for you.
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      05-31-2011, 11:03 PM   #5
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BMW is good about fixing issues if you're just out of warranty. If they are previously documented issues before your warranty expired then they are under law requried to deal with them for you.
nice! this makes me feel much better
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      05-31-2011, 11:25 PM   #6
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wow your redline is low haha
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      05-31-2011, 11:26 PM   #7
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wow your redline is low haha
lol i am in failsafe mode now, it's kind of like window's safe mode.
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      05-31-2011, 11:39 PM   #8
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I'm pretty sure ignition coils fall into the Federal Emissions Warranty since misfires can fry the cats due to excess fuel, and that warranty is for 8 yrs or 80K miles, so no worries there.

As far as clearing codes, you can do that with any code reader since emissions related codes are under OBDII, and all readers can do that. The 'Motronic' codes need a different reader, I think. Good luck.
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      05-31-2011, 11:44 PM   #9
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I'm pretty sure ignition coils fall into the Federal Emissions Warranty since misfires can fry the cats due to excess fuel, and that warranty is for 8 yrs or 80K miles, so no worries there.

As far as clearing codes, you can do that with any code reader since emissions related codes are under OBDII, and all readers can do that. The 'Motronic' codes need a different reader, I think. Good luck.
Your post just ended this thread. Thank you so much for this information!

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      06-01-2011, 01:01 AM   #10
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Unfortunately some coils last well past 100k miles and some fail way more prematurely.

Coils are pretty easy to replace. You can do that yourself.
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      06-01-2011, 04:14 AM   #11
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Unfortunately some coils last well past 100k miles and some fail way more prematurely.

Coils are pretty easy to replace. You can do that yourself.
isn't it weird that two would fail at within about 50 miles of each other?
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      06-01-2011, 04:34 AM   #12
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Mine already failed and replaced @ around 20,000 km. It just wouldn't start when i try to go out for lunch one day.
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You should ask for a "goodwill" repair if they claim it's out of warranty. Best of luck with the repair.
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      06-01-2011, 06:57 AM   #14
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Mine already failed and replaced @ around 20,000 km. It just wouldn't start when i try to go out for lunch one day.
"It wouldn't start"??

My engine starts fine even with 1 cylinder missing.
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      06-01-2011, 07:21 AM   #15
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The dealership has some latitude when it comes to warrantly repairs.

My E46 M had a couple of problems within 1000 miles or so past warranty expiration...and I called the dealership hopping mad. The gal I spoke with just laughed and said "Bring it up...we'll fix it".
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"It wouldn't start"??

My engine starts fine even with 1 cylinder missing.
Well thats what happened, won't start, had it towed and they replaced the ignition coil. There was this other issue where some wire was melted or something like that but I didn't read the report carefully
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BMW is good about fixing issues if you're just out of warranty. If they are previously documented issues before your warranty expired then they are under law requried to deal with them for you.
you mean previously documented issue with your car correct? So if I never had the ignition coil issue, and it comes up, I have to pay out of pocket.
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"It wouldn't start"??

My engine starts fine even with 1 cylinder missing.
BMW South County and Vista have better service dept.
BMW San Diego is known for bad service dept.
Hope everything is solved by now but if you need, we (San Diego E90 guys) have a couple of guys with BT tools who can reset your code.
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isn't it weird that two would fail at within about 50 miles of each other?
on my 'ol E36 M3, I had one, just one coil pack that the dummies at Assael BMW (now BMW of Monrovia) couldn't and wouldn't fix-and it was under warranty.
That jackhole Service manager-Rick Frasier (still remember his name)-was the biggest bunghole. He was the one that didn't approve the fix the second time I was in there. Reason being: I drive the car too fast, annnnd the Dinan Throttle body was the culprit. THe idiot didn't read that I didn't have the throttle body on my first visit.
Well, G/L with your ordeal.
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I noticed at the bottom of the invoice under tire pressure check, it says the tire cords are showing.

Sounds like its time for some new shoes.
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      06-01-2011, 09:15 PM   #22
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Just dropped off my car at the dealer, they will get it back to me tomorrow. I got a 135 as a loaner (which is a sweet ride, even has a m badge on the steering wheel).

One thing i did bring up was what elp_jc said:
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I'm pretty sure ignition coils fall into the Federal Emissions Warranty since misfires can fry the cats due to excess fuel, and that warranty is for 8 yrs or 80K miles, so no worries there.
I did ask the service manager about this, and he decided to look it up and found that the 8-80 warranty only covers "Catalytic Converter, ECU and the OBD" [sic]

Long story short, I am getting this problem fixed under the good will of BMW of San Diego, also the fact that the same problem just got "fixed" yesterday. The reason I say "fixed" is because while I was still under the factory warranty one would expect that if these parts fail so close to one another then BMW would recognize that fact and make it mandatory that if 1 ignition coil fails that they should replace all 8.

If 2 fail within 50miles of each other, how many more miles till one of the next 6 worn/weak ones fail? I would guess less then 1000 miles. By then I will be paying for these ignition coils myself because they will definitely not want to do warranty work on a car that is 1,000 miles past the factory warranty.

All they did was fix it "just enough" for the engine to work again and for it to not spit out any more fault codes, the first time around. I am betting this time will be the same. I am betting that another ignition coil will fail soon again.

Whats probably going to happen is that I will have to come back to BMW San Diego 6 more times until all the ignition coils are replaced. All while fuel is frying the catalytic converter.
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