Poll For How you Drive your M3!!!

Teufel_Hunden · 01-14-2018, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by M_Three

DD. 20,000 miles in 7 months

At that pace you'll have to replace rod bearing once a year.

165_M3 · 01-14-2018, 09:15 PM

its gonna be my daily when i turn my e46 m3 to a dedicated track

M_Three · 01-15-2018, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Teufel_Hunden

At that pace you'll have to replace rod bearing once a year.

Ha.. Or never, depending. Right?

It's really interesting this rod bearing thing.. I mean being in the Auto Repair and Aftermarket business I get to see hundreds of repair shops every year. Since I got my M I have been asking all my European repair shops if they have been doing Rod Bearings on M3's. Do you know I have yet to find a shop that mentions that they have... Now I am not saying there are some M owners that have not had problems. That is clearly documented... But to what extent is this a real problem for "everyone" I do not know, but based on what I see and hear in the real world.. I would say it is not.

It certainly is in the "internet forum" world for sure.

Teufel_Hunden · 01-15-2018, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by M_Three

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Originally Posted by Teufel_Hunden

At that pace you'll have to replace rod bearing once a year.

Ha.. Or never, depending. Right?

It's really interesting this rod bearing thing.. I mean being in the Auto Repair and Aftermarket business I get to see hundreds of repair shops every year. Since I got my M I have been asking all my European repair shops if they have been doing Rod Bearings on M3's. Do you know I have yet to find a shop that mentions that they have... Now I am not saying there are some M owners that have not had problems. That is clearly documented... But to what extent is this a real problem for "everyone" I do not know, but based on what I see and hear in the real world.. I would say it is not.

It certainly is in the "internet forum" world for sure.

I don't want to turn this into a rod bearing thread, but that's an interesting perspective, thanks for sharing.

You really do have to wonder - of current M3 owner's, how many are even aware this is an issue? Same question for independent European shops.

Raek · 01-15-2018, 07:50 AM

Add an option for neither.

GotV8? · 01-16-2018, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Raek

Add an option for neither.

The option of 'Neither' would Not provide any form of driving usage. IMO

GotV8? · 01-16-2018, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by M_Three

Ha.. Or never, depending. Right?

It's really interesting this rod bearing thing.. I mean being in the Auto Repair and Aftermarket business I get to see hundreds of repair shops every year. Since I got my M I have been asking all my European repair shops if they have been doing Rod Bearings on M3's. Do you know I have yet to find a shop that mentions that they have... Now I am not saying there are some M owners that have not had problems. That is clearly documented... But to what extent is this a real problem for "everyone" I do not know, but based on what I see and hear in the real world.. I would say it is not.

It certainly is in the "internet forum" world for sure.

I agree, but it is more of a preventative measure or for long term ownership and for those who wants the peace of mind when adding superchargers. imo

GVIFlyer · 01-16-2018, 10:27 PM

I drive my M3 just for grins. Occasional track days, but mainly for banzaiing back country lanes on sunny days. I just clicked over 13,000 miles before storing the car for the winter.

xander_g · 01-17-2018, 11:13 AM

I only drive it when the weather is nice. For rain or snow, I got my daily f10.

pbonsalb · 01-17-2018, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by M_Three

Ha.. Or never, depending. Right?

It's really interesting this rod bearing thing.. I mean being in the Auto Repair and Aftermarket business I get to see hundreds of repair shops every year. Since I got my M I have been asking all my European repair shops if they have been doing Rod Bearings on M3's. Do you know I have yet to find a shop that mentions that they have... Now I am not saying there are some M owners that have not had problems. That is clearly documented... But to what extent is this a real problem for "everyone" I do not know, but based on what I see and hear in the real world.. I would say it is not.

It certainly is in the "internet forum" world for sure.

I am not in Europe, but the member who tracks failures most closely, M3 Belgium, is there and has mentioned failures in Europe and has mentioned the shop he would use if he changed his and has said they have experience changing bearings on these cars. So, despite your experience, I believe there are shops in Europe that change bearings preventatively on these cars. Long ago, one of the theories was that bearing problems were a US problem—maybe due to girl or driving style or climate. That theory got debunked with failure reports from Australia and Europe.

GotV8? · 01-17-2018, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GVIFlyer

I drive my M3 just for grins. Occasional track days, but mainly for banzaiing back country lanes on sunny days. I just clicked over 13,000 miles before storing the car for the winter.

wow, very low mileage for your year and model....i just hit 50,000 plus on mine

GVIFlyer · 01-18-2018, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by M_Three

Ha.. Or never, depending. Right?

It's really interesting this rod bearing thing.. I mean being in the Auto Repair and Aftermarket business I get to see hundreds of repair shops every year. Since I got my M I have been asking all my European repair shops if they have been doing Rod Bearings on M3's. Do you know I have yet to find a shop that mentions that they have... Now I am not saying there are some M owners that have not had problems. That is clearly documented... But to what extent is this a real problem for "everyone" I do not know, but based on what I see and hear in the real world.. I would say it is not.

It certainly is in the "internet forum" world for sure.

My experience is similar. The service manager at my Penske BMW dealership, a personal friend, told me that his large volume shop has never replaced a set of E9X rod end bearings, E46 M3 motors, yes under the recall, but never the E9X M3's.

I believe the E9X rod bearing paranoia is a form of self perpetuating internet hysteria fueled by the ancestral memory of the very real propensity for E46 M3 rod bearings to fail.

If the S65 engine had rod bearing issues, BMW would launch a recall, just as they did for the E46 M3's S54 motor.

loveskiing · 01-19-2018, 03:46 AM

I agree, "other" category needs to be added to the choices...
Me? I only drive the car backwards to lower the mileage...

BOOF-M3 · 01-19-2018, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by loveskiing

I agree, "other" category needs to be added to the choices...
Me? I only drive the car backwards to lower the mileage...

Did anyone else wake up this morning and notice that LoveSkiing left his mark on every good thread like a dog peeing on a fence lol.

SLC Steve · 01-19-2018, 12:17 PM

Mine is a fair weather car that gets driven as much as possible. I don't drive it on Mondays or during winter/snow as I have a beater for those days. I have a relatively short commute so I only drive it when I know I will get the engine/DCT up to operating temps. In my first year I put a tick over 3K miles on it and every one has been memorable. I hope to get out to the track/autocross this year.

Mr. BMW · 01-19-2018, 12:26 PM

This pole is pointless without the 4th option that everyone is talking about

Eau Rouge · 01-19-2018, 10:43 PM

No DD. No track.

Yes to weekend duty and vacation road trips.

kyippee · 01-20-2018, 01:37 AM

Poll doesn't work, I don't daily drive - I walk to work and around downtown :P

Occasional drive + track for me

GotV8? · 01-23-2018, 07:19 PM

Everyone is entitle to give suggestions. Criticism is another subject matter, maybe someone else can come up with a poll, this was something to get some insight on current e9x m3 owners. Sorry, if I didn't cover all the options. lol

View Poll Results: How do you Drive your M3???
Daily Driver Only	74	63.79%
Dedicated Track Only	3	2.59%
Both: Daily & Track	39	33.62%
Voters: 116. You may not vote on this poll

01-14-2018, 09:15 PM	#24
165_M3 Private 36 Rep 82 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: California iTrader: (0)	its gonna be my daily when i turn my e46 m3 to a dedicated track
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01-15-2018, 07:50 AM	#27
Raek Major 901 Rep 1,044 Posts Drives: 08 M3, '17 Macan GTS Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: New York iTrader: (1)	Add an option for neither. __________________ I did a lot of things to it.
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01-16-2018, 10:27 PM	#30
GVIFlyer Large Member 295 Rep 979 Posts Drives: '19 Porsche C2S Cab_M3 DCT ZCP Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Somewhere in the air. iTrader: (0)	I drive my M3 just for grins. Occasional track days, but mainly for banzaiing back country lanes on sunny days. I just clicked over 13,000 miles before storing the car for the winter.
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01-17-2018, 11:13 AM	#31
xander_g Major 996 Rep 1,126 Posts Drives: G30 M550i Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Toronto iTrader: (2) Garage List 2018 BMW M550i Xdrive [0.00]	I only drive it when the weather is nice. For rain or snow, I got my daily f10.
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01-19-2018, 03:46 AM	#35
loveskiing Lieutenant Colonel 968 Rep 1,612 Posts Drives: 2011 M3 E90 Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Portland, OR iTrader: (0)	I agree, "other" category needs to be added to the choices... Me? I only drive the car backwards to lower the mileage...
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01-19-2018, 12:17 PM	#37
SLC Steve Private 104 Rep 91 Posts Drives: 2011 ZCP E90 Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: SLC, UT iTrader: (0)	Mine is a fair weather car that gets driven as much as possible. I don't drive it on Mondays or during winter/snow as I have a beater for those days. I have a relatively short commute so I only drive it when I know I will get the engine/DCT up to operating temps. In my first year I put a tick over 3K miles on it and every one has been memorable. I hope to get out to the track/autocross this year.
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01-19-2018, 12:26 PM	#38
Mr. BMW Major 262 Rep 1,389 Posts Drives: 2012 E92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: MA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2012 M3 [0.00] 2006 330i [0.00] 2018 Jeep Grand Che ... [0.00]	This pole is pointless without the 4th option that everyone is talking about __________________ 12 M3 Interlagos Blue/Black 18 Jeep Grand Cherokee (Yeah, it's got a HEMI) 21 X3 Silver/Black(Wife's) 06 330i Monaco Blue/Black (retired) 02 X5 3.0 Topaz Blue/Black (retired)
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01-19-2018, 10:43 PM	#39
Eau Rouge Major 140 Rep 1,242 Posts Drives: 2012 E92 M3 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Florida's Emerald Coast iTrader: (0) Garage List 2012 BMW E92 M3 [9.00]	No DD. No track. Yes to weekend duty and vacation road trips. __________________ M3 Performance Center Delivery: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=693856
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01-20-2018, 01:37 AM	#40
kyippee Lieutenant Colonel 1073 Rep 1,617 Posts Drives: E92 M3, Supra MK5, F44 235GC Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: SF Bay Area iTrader: (0)	Poll doesn't work, I don't daily drive - I walk to work and around downtown :P Occasional drive + track for me
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01-23-2018, 07:19 PM	#41
GotV8? Captain 1051 Rep 836 Posts Drives: Jerez E92 M3 ZCP "12" Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: OHIO iTrader: (0) Garage List 1996 Honda Prelude ... [0.00] 2018 BMW F85 X5M [0.00] 2012 E92 M3 ZCP [0.00]	Everyone is entitle to give suggestions. Criticism is another subject matter, maybe someone else can come up with a poll, this was something to get some insight on current e9x m3 owners. Sorry, if I didn't cover all the options. lol Last edited by GotV8?; 01-24-2018 at 07:20 PM.. Reason: correction needed
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