Looked at an M3 today..

WCM3 · 09-18-2010, 12:16 PM

The thing was amazing. Haha. It was alpine/fox red 6MT and drove it around without even the M button pushed down. Couple questions though..

1) When it was first started, the exhaust was very loud. Not exactly at the tips either, it felt like moreso under the engine. Is this common? After a minute or two it quieted down and you could only hear it out of the exhaust.

2) The one I looked at had some issue with the exterior black window trim. It's pretty much like it was technicolored. It was only the trim on the door itself, but I'm assuming that would be able to be removed. Right?

3) Also, it has cold weather package, navigation, etc, but the salesman said it didn't have sirius installed. Does that sound right? He honestly didn't know how to work the car at all so I really don't trust him. It didn't have premium sound either, do you guys feel that is necessary?

Thanks,
Mike

Crazy Bimmer · 09-18-2010, 12:20 PM

1. Normal

2. The rubber pieces? Should be able to be removed with any rubber protectant or cleaner.

3. Sounds right, Sirius was a stand alone option. I didnt think opt for premium sound as it was costly for what it offered. Everyone is different though.

MTROIS · 09-18-2010, 12:24 PM

Not sure about 1) but your descritpion is a bit vague. For sure in mine, I do NOT hear a difference when cold as if the RPMs were higher due to the cold starter effect.

For 2), again pics would have been helpful. Are you sure there was no protective plastic left on the trim? Mine looks as black as black can be.

3) Sirius is a separate option so this description sounds about right...

SlamMan · 09-18-2010, 12:44 PM

Mine is definitely more noisy when it's started until is gets warm.

Poppin Fresh · 09-18-2010, 12:57 PM

Mine sounds like a snoring grizzly bear during cold start up until she gets warmed up. Then she quiets down to my dismay.

WCM3 · 09-18-2010, 01:20 PM

Thanks guys. What I meant for (1) is that it sounds like the car has straight headers and nothing else when first started. It's very loud under the car where the engine is located. But a minute or two later and that goes away. And (2) I'm referring to the plastic shadowline? It's just multicolor looking but I don't know if that's normal or not. And for (3) what all would I need to get the sirius system installed? Just a module? I'm assuming all these cars are prewired..

calintexas · 09-18-2010, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by WCM3

Thanks guys. What I meant for (1) is that it sounds like the car has straight headers and nothing else when first started. It's very loud under the car where the engine is located. But a minute or two later and that goes away. And (2) I'm referring to the plastic shadowline? It's just multicolor looking but I don't know if that's normal or not. And for (3) what all would I need to get the sirius system installed? Just a module? I'm assuming all these cars are prewired..

2. Others have had questions about the trim finish. This thread has info on what to do: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140992

3. Do a search or look through the Audio forum. I recall that you can add Sirius, but probably not the BMW OE install.

Dntlvet · 09-18-2010, 01:37 PM

normal 1 & 3

M3 Piotr · 09-18-2010, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Poppin Fresh

Mine sounds like a snoring grizzly bear during cold start up until she gets warmed up. Then she quiets down to my dismay.

+1. I wish it stayed that loud like when it is first started.

NYCMCBM3 · 09-18-2010, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SlamMan

Mine is definitely more noisy when it's started until is gets warm.

+1, i kinda like that sound tho

bobbyd1961 · 09-18-2010, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by WCM3

The thing was amazing. Haha. It was alpine/fox red 6MT and drove it around without even the M button pushed down. Couple questions though..

1) When it was first started, the exhaust was very loud. Not exactly at the tips either, it felt like moreso under the engine. Is this common? After a minute or two it quieted down and you could only hear it out of the exhaust.

2) The one I looked at had some issue with the exterior black window trim. It's pretty much like it was technicolored. It was only the trim on the door itself, but I'm assuming that would be able to be removed. Right?

3) Also, it has cold weather package, navigation, etc, but the salesman said it didn't have sirius installed. Does that sound right? He honestly didn't know how to work the car at all so I really don't trust him. It didn't have premium sound either, do you guys feel that is necessary?

Thanks,
Mike

THE SCREAM COMES MORE FROM THE ENGINE THAN THE EXHAUST AND THATS A POSITIVE

DadzM4 · 09-18-2010, 04:21 PM

The reason for number 1, or so I am told by a 30 year BMW tech is that M3 has no air pump, so the car runs extra lean at start up to heat the catalytic convertors quickly then goes back to normal after a minute or so.

richardbb85 · 09-18-2010, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Poppin Fresh

Mine sounds like a snoring grizzly bear during cold start up until she gets warmed up. Then she quiets down to my dismay.

same here

sameh · 09-18-2010, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NycE93M3

+1, i kinda like that sound tho

I wake up in the morning to enjoy 2 things. My espresso and the sound of my M3 when I turn it on first thing in am. Not joking

dimabimmer · 09-18-2010, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DadzM3

The reason for number 1, or so I am told by a 30 year BMW tech is that M3 has no air pump, so the car runs extra lean at start up to heat the catalytic convertors quickly then goes back to normal after a minute or so.

It's described in M3 Manual... "when car starts, it has a very loud metallic sound,- it is normal and is necessary requirement for catalitic converter to heat up and reduce air pollution... etc,... after 2 or 3 minutes RPM is lower and the car can be driven then."

I think it is very cool sound when the car warms up so loud with metallic sound,- my friends always get intimidated by it

Premium Sound is Absolutely must have! I had Logic-7 before and I thought that was good enough... yeah right... Premium Sound absolutely blows Logic-7 away! Premium Sound is so much more powerfull

Sirius radio sucks

don't waste your money on it.

mrad01 · 09-18-2010, 04:55 PM

The multicolor black trim happens when you use detergent on the car to wash it and don't rinse it off properly. Nothing a bit of rubbing with a chamois won't fix, but give the dealer heaps about it, it should be black.

08E92M3 · 09-18-2010, 05:05 PM

2) The one I looked at had some issue with the exterior black window trim. It's pretty much like it was technicolored. It was only the trim on the door itself, but I'm assuming that would be able to be removed. Right?

I've had the same window trim discoloration problem a couple of months after I got the car. The shadow trim turned kind of a rainbow color after the rain. And yes, they can replace them, which they did after my local BMW factory rep. inspected my car and authorized the replacement of those trims. BTW, mine is the coupe!

BobsM3Coupe · 09-18-2010, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DadzM3

The reason for number 1, or so I am told by a 30 year BMW tech is that M3 has no air pump, so the car runs extra lean at start up to heat the catalytic convertors quickly then goes back to normal after a minute or so.

See part number 1 in link below. Says it's an air pump.

http://bmwfans.info/parts/catalog/E9...trol_air_pump/

FStop7 · 09-18-2010, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Laszlo

Sirius Radio IMO blows... it sounds like $hit. The feed is so compressed - and when I had my one-free-year the only thing I listened to was Bloomberg radio. Music station quality was so crappy - I am surprised they're still in business actually. They must be burning through loans... in due time I'm sure they'll be back on the bankruptcy list.

It is really compressed. In late 2008 they jacked up the compression rate even further for some of the channels, mostly the talk stations.

I listen to Don Cannon and DJ Premier when they're on Shade 45 and Sirius Hip Hop and that's about it.

kpneverdies · 09-18-2010, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MTROIS

Not sure about 1) but your descritpion is a bit vague. For sure in mine, I do NOT hear a difference when cold as if the RPMs were higher due to the cold starter effect.

For 2), again pics would have been helpful. Are you sure there was no protective plastic left on the trim? Mine looks as black as black can be.

3) Sirius is a separate option so this description sounds about right...

your #1 is wrong, i think.
when you first start the car, u hear that loud sound from ur engine. after like 30 sec, the sound goes away and you'll only hear the exhaust sound.

DadzM4 · 09-19-2010, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BobsM3Coupe

See part number 1 in link below. Says it's an air pump.

http://bmwfans.info/parts/catalog/E9...trol_air_pump/

Well that blows his "expertise"

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WCM3 Î canŧ főcus mŷ attėntĭon 72 Rep 1,406 Posts Drives: 13 Rubicon Join Date: May 2008 Location: Morgantown, Pa iTrader: (7)	Looked at an M3 today.. The thing was amazing. Haha. It was alpine/fox red 6MT and drove it around without even the M button pushed down. Couple questions though.. 1) When it was first started, the exhaust was very loud. Not exactly at the tips either, it felt like moreso under the engine. Is this common? After a minute or two it quieted down and you could only hear it out of the exhaust. 2) The one I looked at had some issue with the exterior black window trim. It's pretty much like it was technicolored. It was only the trim on the door itself, but I'm assuming that would be able to be removed. Right? 3) Also, it has cold weather package, navigation, etc, but the salesman said it didn't have sirius installed. Does that sound right? He honestly didn't know how to work the car at all so I really don't trust him. It didn't have premium sound either, do you guys feel that is necessary? Thanks, Mike __________________ 2011 M3 Coupe - Individual Fire Orange/Black Novillo Extended Leather, 6MT, Mode Carbon, Eisenmann Race, BBS CH-R, BC Coil-overs (Sold) 1995 M3 Coupe - Avus/Hurricane, AEM EMS, Precision Turbo, Boostlogic, H&R, Fikse FM/5, MaxVelocity, Maximum PSI, 20% Tint, etc etc..(Sold) 2009 M3 Coupe - AW/Fox Red, 6MT, Carbon Roof, Shadow Trim, etc (Sold)
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MTROIS Major 188 Rep 1,153 Posts Drives: on the wrong side of the Ocean Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: New Jersey, USA iTrader: (0)	Not sure about 1) but your descritpion is a bit vague. For sure in mine, I do NOT hear a difference when cold as if the RPMs were higher due to the cold starter effect. For 2), again pics would have been helpful. Are you sure there was no protective plastic left on the trim? Mine looks as black as black can be. 3) Sirius is a separate option so this description sounds about right...
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WCM3 Î canŧ főcus mŷ attėntĭon 72 Rep 1,406 Posts Drives: 13 Rubicon Join Date: May 2008 Location: Morgantown, Pa iTrader: (7)	Thanks guys. What I meant for (1) is that it sounds like the car has straight headers and nothing else when first started. It's very loud under the car where the engine is located. But a minute or two later and that goes away. And (2) I'm referring to the plastic shadowline? It's just multicolor looking but I don't know if that's normal or not. And for (3) what all would I need to get the sirius system installed? Just a module? I'm assuming all these cars are prewired.. __________________ 2011 M3 Coupe - Individual Fire Orange/Black Novillo Extended Leather, 6MT, Mode Carbon, Eisenmann Race, BBS CH-R, BC Coil-overs (Sold) 1995 M3 Coupe - Avus/Hurricane, AEM EMS, Precision Turbo, Boostlogic, H&R, Fikse FM/5, MaxVelocity, Maximum PSI, 20% Tint, etc etc..(Sold) 2009 M3 Coupe - AW/Fox Red, 6MT, Carbon Roof, Shadow Trim, etc (Sold)
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DadzM4 Lieutenant 17 Rep 518 Posts Drives: M4 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Florida iTrader: (2)	The reason for number 1, or so I am told by a 30 year BMW tech is that M3 has no air pump, so the car runs extra lean at start up to heat the catalytic convertors quickly then goes back to normal after a minute or so. __________________ AW M4 \| Black Full Merino Leather \| Driver Assistance Package \| Lighting Package \| HK Sound \| Concierge Services \| Enhanced BT \| 6 MT
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mrad01 First Lieutenant 16 Rep 327 Posts Drives: 2008 BMW E90 M3 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Zealand iTrader: (0)	The multicolor black trim happens when you use detergent on the car to wash it and don't rinse it off properly. Nothing a bit of rubbing with a chamois won't fix, but give the dealer heaps about it, it should be black. __________________ 2008 BMW e90 M3 6MT 1990 BMW e30 325i 5MT
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08E92M3 Private 2 Rep 94 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Coupe Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Dublin iTrader: (0)	2) The one I looked at had some issue with the exterior black window trim. It's pretty much like it was technicolored. It was only the trim on the door itself, but I'm assuming that would be able to be removed. Right? I've had the same window trim discoloration problem a couple of months after I got the car. The shadow trim turned kind of a rainbow color after the rain. And yes, they can replace them, which they did after my local BMW factory rep. inspected my car and authorized the replacement of those trims. BTW, mine is the coupe!
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