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Let's see here...
- Run low on oil - Run at very high cylinder pressures (12:1 with port fuel injection + 9psi on relatively low octane fuel ) - Possible (probable?) detonation on the dyno at high rpm - High rpm, high-strung motor that STARTED OUT making 104hp/l and now makes over 150 and still revs to the moon... Yeah, my car will probably blow up tomorrow because I'm saying this, but I'm thinking you got your money's worth out of that motor. I'm not worried. As we say at the track after something bad happens: "That's racin'!" Nothing left to do but re-motor and make it faster!
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I've read of a couple 2008 cars with bad bearings here that were not blown, but I think they had the "ticking" sound.
I also remember someone saying NOT to use Meth with this engine- it may have been Ronin. Anyways, good luck with the rebuild. Isn't this going to run close to $20,000?
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lol, I respect your thoughts, I'm sure many probably may feel the same way you do.
FWIW, Gintani never even questioned it, from the moment I called them to tell them what happened, they said, "We'll take care of it." As I said in my last post, in my long history as an enthusiast, modding, etc. for the most part when you add FI to your car, upgraded, etc. if something fails, the tuner normally will not cover all costs, some do nothing and some will find a way out, based on things you did to the car yourself, so I think they get it too.
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Yes, a N/A motor has blown and the owner is on the forum but his user name doesn't come to mind at the moment. He ended up rebuilding the motor to stock displacement with higher compression. Paired with his Akra evo exhaust it sounds great.
EDIT: "elmariachi" from Signapore http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=433835
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02-23-2011, 09:56 AM | #28 |
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so we have 1 N/A blown out of how many N/A .... and at least 4 or 5 S/C blown out of how many S/C?
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02-23-2011, 09:59 AM | #29 |
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Sorry to see your motor blow, hopefully it will be up and running again soon. The car is a monster!
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i almost 100% positive ESS has no blown motoros, and they've sold A LOT of kits. Gpower had 3 i believe, one was tightie, the other two were mentioned somewhere on the forum. if i remember correctly it was due to a bad tune but they were able fix that. Active has 1 but good luck finding info on that. Gintani has this one. |
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Please keep this thread on topic. Off-topic posts have been (and will be) removed. Thank you.
Sorry to hear about your engine Drew please keep us updated and good luck.
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02-23-2011, 10:27 AM | #35 |
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Where's the "duh" smilie? Just part of the game, and part of what makes modifying and/or racing cars so much fun. Most people don't have the chutzpah to mess with a car because of this phenomenon. The risks of modifying a car are very real, it's just a fact of life and I've seen too many world-class tuners blow stuff up to let anybody tell me different. Sometimes stuff breaks when it makes more power, unexpected failures happen, what once was strong enough becomes a weak link. That's why it's such a small club and it's just part of what makes it exciting.
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sorry to hear the news - that really sucks. props to you for being candid and keeping the community in the loop regarding the root cause here! and of course, props to Gintani for standing behind their products.
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Yo if Gintani really is covering the cost of all repairs that is sick. That is waaaaaay beyond what they need to do. I mean what aftermarket tuner company would warranty the motor? Without even taking into consideration your claim of oil starvation and running higher than normal boost. But I have to agree...the S65 has a high CR and it's a little suspect to me some of these boost numbers on the higher HP kits.
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Hope everything gets worked out bro...don't let it get you down.
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Here are a few links ... Note that all these car are 2008 M3's 2008 AtiveAuto SC: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...hlight=rebuild 2008 SPOTIKUS: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=307802 2008 ELMARIACHI: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=309484 http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=379712
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Thanks for sharing your story with everyone Drew as it will hopefully open some eyes to what the limits of this motor are and the risk involved if you decide to push them. Hopefully your car is back on the road again soon. |
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