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02-17-2011, 01:22 PM | #1 |
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Buyer Beware! E92 M3
I just got off the phone with the seller who told me that his car was "clean title with no accidents". The title has obviously been "washed" because carfax shows it was a total loss back in 2009. http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst...210989748.html http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-M...t_27337wt_1170 |
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02-17-2011, 03:26 PM | #6 |
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I am not sure how it works in the US being from Canada, but when you look at the history report and it shows on one of the lines "Vehicle registered to Insurance Company", is this not a tip off to being a wreck?
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02-17-2011, 03:30 PM | #8 |
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Yes, it would. However it is posted locally for sale and the seller flat out lied about the history over the phone.
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02-17-2011, 03:39 PM | #9 |
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Brutal. Just wondered why on the ebay listing it would still give a clean rating despite that line. Nice find - hopefully no one will be burned by this sale.
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02-17-2011, 03:47 PM | #10 | |
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VIN for easy google access: WBSWD93569PY43594 |
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02-17-2011, 03:53 PM | #11 |
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the eBay link has AutoCheck from eBay and it seems pretty clean with "no accident" icon.
Registered to an insurance company seems lil funny but other than that, it looks like clean car according to AutoCheck. 5/14/2009 VOORHEES, NJ 108 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #E200913400000235)(Lien Reported) 05/31/2009 VOORHEES, NJ Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 11/10/2009 BERKELEY HEIGHTS, NJ 2,937 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:RA200931400000086) VEHICLE TITLED/REGISTERED TO AN INSURANCE COMPANY 12/17/2010 CA 4,158 Motor Vehicle Dept. ODOMETER READING FROM DMV 12/18/2010 CA 4,283 State Agency PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION 12/28/2010 MARINA DEL REY, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 01/07/2011 MARINA DEL REY, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE
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02-17-2011, 03:59 PM | #12 |
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^ Run a Carfax though and it will clearly state "total loss".
Either way, insurance companies are not in the business of buying cars unless they have to. |
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02-17-2011, 04:04 PM | #13 |
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Interesting... wow the car looks so ridiculously clean too. Usually cars with total losses will have missing bits here and there or a super worn out looking seats, strange stains etc. Everything looks immaculate and original... definitely tricky.
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02-17-2011, 05:20 PM | #17 |
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If anyone has a free (or paid) carfax service, please post actual carfax.
This is really bad that one vin service (carfax) shows "total loss" and another reputable service (autocheck - carmax uses them in all of their stores) doesn't even show a ding on the same car. If I'm the owner of the car, I'll sell it to carmax like right now as it doesn't even show up in the autocheck.
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02-19-2011, 08:19 PM | #21 |
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Vehicle Information: 2009 BMW M3 VIN: WBSWD93569PY43594 COUPE 4.0L V8 FI DOHC 32V REAR WHEEL DRIVE Standard Equipment | Safety Options Standard Equipment Power Windows, Power Steering, Air Conditioning, AM/FM CD/MP3, Power Brakes, Tilt Wheel, 6-digit Odometer Safety Options 4 wheel ABS, Running Lights, Dual air bags front and sides/active (manual) belts with automatic passenger sensor Ownership HistoryThe number of owners is estimated Owner 1 Owner 2 Year purchased 2009 2010 Type of owner Personal Personal Estimated length of ownership 1 yr. 7 mo. 1 month Owned in the following states/provinces New Jersey California Estimated miles driven per year --- --- Last reported odometer reading 2,937 4,500 Title HistoryCARFAX guarantees the information in this section Owner 1 Owner 2 Owner 1 Purchased: 2009 Type: Personal Where: New Jersey Est. length owned: 5/14/09 - 12/17/10 (1 yr. 7 mo.) Date: Mileage: Source: Comments: 10/27/2008 8 Devon Hill BMW Devon, PA 610-687-9350 www.devonhillbmw.com State inspection completed Ignition key reprogrammed Pre-delivery inspection completed Emissions inspection completed Floor mats installed Washed/detailed 05/02/2009 108 Service Plan Co. Voorhees, NJ Service contract issued 05/05/2009 West German BMW Fort Washington, PA 215-643-3322 www.westgermanbmw.com ww.westgermanbmw.co m Emissions inspection completed Ignition key reprogrammed State inspection completed Pre-delivery inspection completed 05/14/2009 New Jersey Motor Vehicle Dept. Voorhees, NJ Title #DE20091340235 Title issued or updated First owner reported Registered as personal vehicle Loan or lien reported 06/13/2009 1,196 BMW of Mount Laurel Mount Laurel, NJ 856-840-1400 www.desimonebmw.com Maintenance inspection completed Engine/powertrain computer/module checked Recommended maintenance performed Transmission checked 08/14/2009 BMW of Towson Towson, MD 410-296-7900 www.bmwtowson.com Vehicle serviced 11/10/2009 2,937 New Jersey Motor Vehicle Dept. Berkeley Heights, NJ Title #RA20093140086 Title or registration issued to insurance company 11/23/2009 New Jersey Damage Report TOTAL LOSS VEHICLE Vehicle declared a total loss Collision damage reported Owner 2 Purchased: 2010 Type: Personal Where: California Est. length owned: 12/17/10 - 2/11/11 (1 month) Date: Mileage: Source: Comments: 12/17/2010 4,158 California Motor Vehicle Dept. Marina del Rey, CA Odometer reading reported 12/18/2010 4,283 California Inspection Station Passed emissions inspection 12/28/2010 California Motor Vehicle Dept. Marina del Rey, CA Title issued or updated New owner reported 02/11/2011 4,500 Dealer Inventory Willimantic, CT Vehicle offered for sale
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