Offered trade for C63 AMG

z335is · 05-05-2012, 02:49 PM

Hey guys, I currently have an '11 M3 which I love, but with all the talk of the C63 lately it has piqued my curiosity. So long story short, I went to my local dealer who had one in stock and was ultimately offered an absolute straight trade (my M3, for the C63 coupe) with zero out of pocket. The C63 has the following options:

S32 S32 COMAND Single Disc Package: 7.0" Hig $930
527 : COMAND System w/ Hard-Drive Navigation
396 : Voice Control
068 Wheel Locking bolts $140 07P Germany
218 Rearview Camera $460
319 Lighting Package: Bi-Xenon Headlamps $1,290
615 : Bi-Xenon Active Light System
608 : Intelligent Highbeam Control
600 : Headlamp Washing System
471 Limited Slip Differential Lock $2,030 736 Black Ash Wood Trim
795 18" AMG Twin 5-Spoke Alloy Wheels
889 KEYLESS-GO $650
993 Lane Tracking Package: Blind Spot A $850
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The only options are my M3 are carbon fiber trim and then convenience pkg. What are your thought on this? Should I pull the trigger?

Thanks!

Moxie · 05-05-2012, 03:01 PM

Too bad this wasn't included -

P31 AMG Development Pack

gthal · 05-05-2012, 03:31 PM

Couple of thoughts...

1. If you drive both you will know which one you prefer and should own. Who cares what we think.
2. As noted, too bad it doesn't come with the P31 package
3. Something is odd with the pricing. A new C63 is as much or more than an M3 in the US. How can you be getting an even deal. Is the C63 a demo or used? I don't see how the deal is possible otherwise... a USED M3 with minimal options has to have less value than a NEW C63 with decent options.
4. I would not trade the M3 for a C63 just because of attention the car is getting here. If you don't find it compelling after driving it, keep the M3!!

swanson · 05-05-2012, 03:35 PM

Do it!

DARK_M3 · 05-05-2012, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by z335is

Hey guys, I currently have an '11 M3 which I love!

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Hologram7 · 05-05-2012, 09:24 PM

P31 package would of made it one sweet deal. Don't do it in any case, unless you really love that car.

z335is · 05-05-2012, 09:37 PM

Yeah I'm kind of disappointed that it doesn't have the P31, it does have the LSD at least, lol.

Darth One · 05-05-2012, 09:39 PM

comparing new C63 to used M3 price, it appears you are on the better end of this deal. which kinda makes it sound like something is up. are the C63's not selling, or getting heavily discounted from MSRP? is that particular model colored shit brown or something?

BMW Fanatic · 05-05-2012, 09:47 PM

Full info on the C63 and MSRP? I call BS on this unless the C63 is 2010~.

DevJ · 05-05-2012, 10:26 PM

if you dont buy this c63 please pm me the link to the dealers website so i can check out the car lol

z335is · 05-06-2012, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BMW Fanatic

Full info on the C63 and MSRP? I call BS on this unless the C63 is 2010~.

MSRP is 67,855. The car is a demo being sold as new with 1,100 miles on it.

mike33176 · 05-06-2012, 04:56 PM

Your choice Bud, you drove them both.

Keik E92 M3 · 05-06-2012, 05:53 PM

i would get the C63!

JerezblackM3 · 05-06-2012, 06:31 PM

I now have the c63 coupe, it's been with me for 1 week. Both are great cars. To much fun from both cars. M3 is more focused. Better to make perfect drifts and connected drifts on small track. Because u have the engine power under ur feet, and u can simply control it easily. The higher ur rpm revs, the faster the car is, or the bigger drift angle gets. As for the c63, it's brutal, drifting on a small track is very hard. The sudden torque gets u spinning right away. On normal driving, the c63 feels faster because of the torque at low rpm. It just kicks u back. Similar to the feeling in my alpina b3 biturbo. C63 feels faster yet in the race i posted a few months ago, I pulled on the c63 more than 4 or 5 cars. The seats in the m3 are more comfortable for longer trips. Both have harman kardon Sound system but in my m3 it is better, maybe because of the two subwoofers under each seat. steering feel in m3 is better. Dct in m3 is better, though the dct in c63 is a huge improvement over the normal 2011 and bellow c63. Stock exhaust on c63 is ten times better than the stock m3 exchaust. Though my exhaust now is 100 times better

In the c63, u don't have to juice the engine to get the power. It's there on low rpm. In the m3, u must be on the right gear and right rpm to get it moving. This is why the m3 is known as "best drivers car", anyone can race a c63 and go fast. Not everyone can properly race an m car. Many m5 owners that I know lose to stock c63. I made some of them meet again, an I was behind the wheel, the m5 shined like it should

C63 looks beautiful in some angles. M3 is beautiful in all angles

Now, if someone can own both, it would be great because the c63 is so much fun and the low end torque keeps the driver happy

But if I had to choose one, it will be the m3.

bimmerj · 05-06-2012, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerezblackM3

I now have the c63 coupe, it's been with me for 1 week. Both are great cars. To much fun from both cars. M3 is more focused. Better to make perfect drifts and connected drifts on small track. Because u have the engine power under ur feet, and u can simply control it easily. The higher ur rpm revs, the faster the car is, or the bigger drift angle gets. As for the c63, it's brutal, drifting on a small track is very hard. The sudden torque gets u spinning right away. On normal driving, the c63 feels faster because of the torque at low rpm. It just kicks u back. Similar to the feeling in my alpina b3 biturbo. C63 feels faster yet in the race i posted a few months ago, I pulled on the c63 more than 4 or 5 cars. The seats in the m3 are more comfortable for longer trips. Both have harman kardon Sound system but in my m3 it is better, maybe because of the two subwoofers under each seat. steering feel in m3 is better. Dct in m3 is better, though the dct in c63 is a huge improvement over the normal 2011 and bellow c63. Stock exhaust on c63 is ten times better than the stock m3 exchaust. Though my exhaust now is 100 times better

In the c63, u don't have to juice the engine to get the power. It's there on low rpm. In the m3, u must be on the right gear and right rpm to get it moving. This is why the m3 is known as "best drivers car", anyone can race a c63 and go fast. Not everyone can properly race an m car. Many m5 owners that I know lose to stock c63. I made some of them meet again, an I was behind the wheel, the m5 shined like it should

C63 looks beautiful in some angles. M3 is beautiful in all angles

Now, if someone can own both, it would be great because the c63 is so much fun and the low end torque keeps the driver happy

But if I had to choose one, it will be the m3.

you pulled, with your TUNE, on a c63 that you thought was a PP.

Can't forget you lol

EvosM3 · 05-06-2012, 07:28 PM

I'd keep the M3, especially since it's a 2011. I doubt you've driven it long enough to appreciate it and in a couple thousand miles or so, you'll probably love it too much to give it up.

PhillyNate · 05-06-2012, 07:37 PM

The fact the dealer would go even up on this deal speaks volumes to which is the better choice...and the one I'd keep.

IFX · 05-06-2012, 07:57 PM

How long have you had the M? I'd probably do it if it had the PP.

Variety my friend.

gthal · 05-06-2012, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillyNate

The fact the dealer would go even up on this deal speaks volumes to which is the better choice...and the one I'd keep.

Impossible to conclude this based on what we know. I still also think something is missing but, regardless, if a MB dealer is willing to do the trade it has zero to do with what car is better. Maybe it says the M3 has better resale but that is it. Even that doesn't make sense. A MB dealer willing to buy a used M3 with limited options (making it hard to sell) in an even swap for a demo C63 which, for a MB dealer, would be easier to move.

I'm not suggesting the OP is being dishonest but something is fishy here and I bet more to the story than the dealer is saying... what is in it for the dealer? Let's see... take a demo car (the brand you actually sell) and swap it for a used, base level car (of a brand you don't sell). What's in it for them... it's not like they can sell a limited option M3 for a huge profit over what they are giving up. The only thing that might make sense is if there is a BMW dealership in the same group of companies and they need to get an M3 for someone who is looking for one. Otherwise, the deal itself makes little sense... anyway, off topic and not relevant to the OP.

Nang Vann · 05-06-2012, 08:14 PM

Get em both!

Nine · 05-07-2012, 01:05 PM

I wonder what they guys over at MBworld would say....

mdosu · 05-07-2012, 03:45 PM

money aside, I feel like the only 2 options I look for in the C63 would be P31 or LSD. Track performance-wise, non-P31 C63s are on par with DCT M3s, so it wouldn't be a significant performance upgrade to go to a C63.

At the end of the day, it's all about what car you enjoy driving the most. If I were in your situation, I would not take the depreciation hit on the M3 for this C63 without the P31.

05-05-2012, 02:49 PM	#1
z335is Lieutenant 356 Rep 501 Posts Drives: 2016 M3 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Newark iTrader: (0)	Offered trade for C63 AMG - Thoughts? Hey guys, I currently have an '11 M3 which I love, but with all the talk of the C63 lately it has piqued my curiosity. So long story short, I went to my local dealer who had one in stock and was ultimately offered an absolute straight trade (my M3, for the C63 coupe) with zero out of pocket. The C63 has the following options: S32 S32 COMAND Single Disc Package: 7.0" Hig $930 527 : COMAND System w/ Hard-Drive Navigation 396 : Voice Control 068 Wheel Locking bolts $140 07P Germany 218 Rearview Camera $460 319 Lighting Package: Bi-Xenon Headlamps $1,290 615 : Bi-Xenon Active Light System 608 : Intelligent Highbeam Control 600 : Headlamp Washing System 471 Limited Slip Differential Lock $2,030 736 Black Ash Wood Trim 795 18" AMG Twin 5-Spoke Alloy Wheels 889 KEYLESS-GO $650 993 Lane Tracking Package: Blind Spot A $850 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The only options are my M3 are carbon fiber trim and then convenience pkg. What are your thought on this? Should I pull the trigger? Thanks!
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05-05-2012, 03:01 PM	#2
Moxie Lieutenant Colonel 67 Rep 1,895 Posts Drives: AW 328d Touring/SG 335d Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: North Carolina iTrader: (12)	Too bad this wasn't included - P31 AMG Development Pack
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05-05-2012, 03:31 PM	#3
gthal Major General 1903 Rep 5,678 Posts Drives: 2018 340i xDrive Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Canada iTrader: (2)	Couple of thoughts... 1. If you drive both you will know which one you prefer and should own. Who cares what we think. 2. As noted, too bad it doesn't come with the P31 package 3. Something is odd with the pricing. A new C63 is as much or more than an M3 in the US. How can you be getting an even deal. Is the C63 a demo or used? I don't see how the deal is possible otherwise... a USED M3 with minimal options has to have less value than a NEW C63 with decent options. 4. I would not trade the M3 for a C63 just because of attention the car is getting here. If you don't find it compelling after driving it, keep the M3!! __________________ 2020 X3 M40i \| Black \| Current DD 2020 C8 Corvette \| Z51 \| Torch Red ... built and waiting for delivery 2016 M2 \| Long Beach Blue \| 6MT 2015 M4 \| Austin Yellow \| DCT 2012 MB C63AMG \| 2011 E92 M3 \| 2010 E92 M3
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Hologram7 Private First Class 10 Rep 156 Posts Drives: E92 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: TX iTrader: (5)	P31 package would of made it one sweet deal. Don't do it in any case, unless you really love that car. __________________ \| 2012 E92 335is- 6MT \|
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05-05-2012, 09:37 PM	#7
z335is Lieutenant 356 Rep 501 Posts Drives: 2016 M3 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Newark iTrader: (0)	Yeah I'm kind of disappointed that it doesn't have the P31, it does have the LSD at least, lol.
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Darth One drunk poster 6613 Rep 3,649 Posts Drives: M4 GTS \| E46 M3 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: FL iTrader: (0)	comparing new C63 to used M3 price, it appears you are on the better end of this deal. which kinda makes it sound like something is up. are the C63's not selling, or getting heavily discounted from MSRP? is that particular model colored shit brown or something?
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05-05-2012, 09:47 PM	#9
BMW Fanatic Banned 135 Rep 3,293 Posts Drives: slow Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Calgary iTrader: (11)	Full info on the C63 and MSRP? I call BS on this unless the C63 is 2010~.
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DevJ Colonel 154 Rep 2,736 Posts Drives: R8 V10+/YMB M4 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK iTrader: (1)	if you dont buy this c63 please pm me the link to the dealers website so i can check out the car lol __________________ ‘23 RRS First Edition '22 X7 M50i '18 R8 V10+ http://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=133578&d=1204654487[/IMG]
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05-06-2012, 04:56 PM	#12
mike33176 Lieutenant 47 Rep 431 Posts Drives: 09 Jerez/ Black, E90 M3 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Miami iTrader: (1)	Your choice Bud, you drove them both.
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Keik E92 M3 Banned 173 Rep 1,343 Posts Drives: BMW M3 DCT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: SoCal iTrader: (6) Garage List 2009 BMW [9.00] 2011 BMW 335i [6.80]	i would get the C63!
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05-06-2012, 06:31 PM	#14
JerezblackM3 First Lieutenant 55 Rep 330 Posts Drives: e92 m3 dct Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: lebanon iTrader: (0)	I now have the c63 coupe, it's been with me for 1 week. Both are great cars. To much fun from both cars. M3 is more focused. Better to make perfect drifts and connected drifts on small track. Because u have the engine power under ur feet, and u can simply control it easily. The higher ur rpm revs, the faster the car is, or the bigger drift angle gets. As for the c63, it's brutal, drifting on a small track is very hard. The sudden torque gets u spinning right away. On normal driving, the c63 feels faster because of the torque at low rpm. It just kicks u back. Similar to the feeling in my alpina b3 biturbo. C63 feels faster yet in the race i posted a few months ago, I pulled on the c63 more than 4 or 5 cars. The seats in the m3 are more comfortable for longer trips. Both have harman kardon Sound system but in my m3 it is better, maybe because of the two subwoofers under each seat. steering feel in m3 is better. Dct in m3 is better, though the dct in c63 is a huge improvement over the normal 2011 and bellow c63. Stock exhaust on c63 is ten times better than the stock m3 exchaust. Though my exhaust now is 100 times better In the c63, u don't have to juice the engine to get the power. It's there on low rpm. In the m3, u must be on the right gear and right rpm to get it moving. This is why the m3 is known as "best drivers car", anyone can race a c63 and go fast. Not everyone can properly race an m car. Many m5 owners that I know lose to stock c63. I made some of them meet again, an I was behind the wheel, the m5 shined like it should C63 looks beautiful in some angles. M3 is beautiful in all angles Now, if someone can own both, it would be great because the c63 is so much fun and the low end torque keeps the driver happy But if I had to choose one, it will be the m3. __________________ SicknTuned Performance
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EvosM3 Banned 5 Rep 169 Posts Drives: WTB E90 M3 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: America iTrader: (0)	I'd keep the M3, especially since it's a 2011. I doubt you've driven it long enough to appreciate it and in a couple thousand miles or so, you'll probably love it too much to give it up.
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IFX Banned 67 Rep 2,536 Posts Drives: AW e46M/N54 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: South Fla. iTrader: (1)	How long have you had the M? I'd probably do it if it had the PP. Variety my friend.
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Nang Vann Lieutenant Colonel 25 Rep 1,513 Posts Drives: E46 M3, R35 GT-R Join Date: May 2011 Location: Australia iTrader: (0)	Get em both! __________________ Moving on up!
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05-07-2012, 01:05 PM	#21
Nine Banned 49 Rep 1,922 Posts Drives: Not ZCP, FML. Join Date: May 2010 Location: DC, Miami, NYC iTrader: (2)	I wonder what they guys over at MBworld would say....
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05-07-2012, 03:45 PM	#22
mdosu Banned 314 Rep 8,496 Posts Drives: Double Vanos'd Civic-M3 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: San Francisco iTrader: (6)	money aside, I feel like the only 2 options I look for in the C63 would be P31 or LSD. Track performance-wise, non-P31 C63s are on par with DCT M3s, so it wouldn't be a significant performance upgrade to go to a C63. At the end of the day, it's all about what car you enjoy driving the most. If I were in your situation, I would not take the depreciation hit on the M3 for this C63 without the P31.
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