It has begun! M3-gone-soft petition

Just_me · 07-08-2007, 01:01 PM

http://www.petitiononline.com/M3soft/petition.html

RandyB · 07-08-2007, 01:12 PM

Wow. Maybe re-write it first.

nusevad · 07-08-2007, 01:17 PM

We seriously need a new section for the haters. They need to stop polluting this forum.

btw. your little petition isnt going to work.

Just_me · 07-08-2007, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by FifthStreetz

btw. your little petition isnt going to work.

oh really? No need to be a genious to understand that

BMW has abandoned us

EDIT: who said I started this petition.

Tobizach · 07-08-2007, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Just_me

oh really? No need to be a genious to understand that

BMW has abandoned us

Nah.. They didnt abandon us... just you

Just_me · 07-08-2007, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tobizach

Nah.. They didnt abandon us... just you

I still have faith in the M3. Its all up to Sportauto supertest or a few comparisons with C63 and RS4 to convince me M3 still is the ultimate driving machine. If not, maybe I should join the Lexus fanatics instead.

ward · 07-08-2007, 01:39 PM

why don't you just wait and buy an M1 then?

///Murdock · 07-08-2007, 02:43 PM

rofl....! how is the new v8 refined and soft? a v8 that revs like a motha-fka is hardly SOFT... you know what buddy, YOURE SOFT

kishg · 07-08-2007, 02:51 PM

a petition? thats ridiculous. this has to be the competition at work

vladinecko · 07-08-2007, 03:01 PM

maybe there is one more person in the world who feels exactly like you and then you can both march up on munich and make a difference...

13eastie · 07-08-2007, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kishg

a petition? thats ridiculous. this has to be the competition at work

I agree - the devasting analysis offered by some of the signatories could not be the work of mere amateurs.

porscheguy · 07-08-2007, 03:21 PM

I don't like understeer, light steering, and fade-prone brakes, but I certainly don't want my M3 to be "raw" and definitely not like the E46, which was both raw and a merely good handling sports coupe. I have raw in my Porsche. I've had raw in a Lotus and in a Morgan. Raw is great and exotic, but it's not everday food. Why would you bother with a 4 seat car if you wanted "raw"? Give me powerful, smooth, precise, with just enough feedback -- with four seats and cargo space.

NewhouseEnt · 07-08-2007, 04:19 PM

I feel constipated.....

porscheguy · 07-08-2007, 05:17 PM

Pretend you are in the woods...works for me

NewhouseEnt · 07-08-2007, 05:47 PM

swamp2 · 07-08-2007, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by porscheguy

I don't like understeer, light steering, and fade-prone brakes, but I certainly don't want my M3 to be "raw" and definitely not like the E46, which was both raw and a merely good handling sports coupe. I have raw in my Porsche. I've had raw in a Lotus and in a Morgan. Raw is great and exotic, but it's not everday food. Why would you bother with a 4 seat car if you wanted "raw"? Give me powerful, smooth, precise, with just enough feedback -- with four seats and cargo space.

EXACTLY. There is a continuum of possible designs from tempermental race car to plush Cadillac cruiser. The M3 always has sat much closer to the first rather than the ladder. With each generation it seem to migrate in a certain direction. I think the jury is still (way) out on whether this generation will be a significant migration. Anyway, totally agree with your post, spot on.

swamp2 · 07-08-2007, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Just_me

http://www.petitiononline.com/M3soft/petition.html

What a total joke. How could anyone write, sign or endorse this type of letter. It is not eloquent, precise and does not even use proper English. It does not display our passion for BMWs nor does it effectively communicate any concrete complaints. I would also bet none of the signers have actually driven the car. Heck we don't even have a full road test nor performance stats yets (we do know it will out run an F360 0-1000m though

!).

This is exaclty like the E46 bashing when it came out as well as all those knocking the looks of the E92 M3 when we got our first glimpse. Stop the wholesale panic.

UGH!

//m3purist · 07-08-2007, 09:04 PM

You have got to be kidding me....gone soft? I don't think it has gone soft but maybe BMW didn't take it far enough..... There is no doubt that this car will beat the old e46; however, I just hesitate to say that it will take the competition. The competition has gotten a lot smarter and BMW really had to raise the bar even higher than ever before....now I am thinking that maybe we were all expecting too much....

M3onTwomps · 07-08-2007, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Just_me

I still have faith in the M3. Its all up to Sportauto supertest or a few comparisons with C63 and RS4 to convince me M3 still is the ultimate driving machine. If not, maybe I should join the Lexus fanatics instead.

Maybe you're right. Or maybe get a brain of your own and take a test-drive instead of letting a few magazine articles make your decision for you.

Just_me · 07-09-2007, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by M3onTwomps

Maybe you're right. Or maybe get a brain of your own and take a test-drive instead of letting a few magazine articles make your decision for you.

I love you too

swamp2 · 07-09-2007, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Just_me

I love you too

OK that reply was a bit harsh but what can you expect from the faithful. They are not being blindly faithful, there is good reason for some optimism. Christ, for the millionth time we don't even have a full road test published yet nor TESTED performance specs.

You must have expected at least a bit of back lash of this type. I have been providing my back lash where I think it is appropriate.

esquire · 07-09-2007, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by swamp2

I have been providing my back lash where I think it is appropriate.

i probably laughed at this quote for 3 minutes. lol.

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///Murdock Private 1 Rep 54 Posts Drives: 06 M5, 04 M3 Join Date: May 2007 Location: BOS, USA iTrader: (0)	rofl....! how is the new v8 refined and soft? a v8 that revs like a motha-fka is hardly SOFT... you know what buddy, YOURE SOFT
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porscheguy Enlisted Member 3 Rep 31 Posts Drives: 93 RS America Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, Alabama iTrader: (0)	I don't like understeer, light steering, and fade-prone brakes, but I certainly don't want my M3 to be "raw" and definitely not like the E46, which was both raw and a merely good handling sports coupe. I have raw in my Porsche. I've had raw in a Lotus and in a Morgan. Raw is great and exotic, but it's not everday food. Why would you bother with a 4 seat car if you wanted "raw"? Give me powerful, smooth, precise, with just enough feedback -- with four seats and cargo space.
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//m3purist New Member 3 Rep 18 Posts Drives: 04 e46 AW M3 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (0)	You have got to be kidding me....gone soft? I don't think it has gone soft but maybe BMW didn't take it far enough..... There is no doubt that this car will beat the old e46; however, I just hesitate to say that it will take the competition. The competition has gotten a lot smarter and BMW really had to raise the bar even higher than ever before....now I am thinking that maybe we were all expecting too much....
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