Recommended racing brake pads by those who track

[aus]

Originally Posted by PandaM3

Any problems with uneven deposits with those that swap out for the track? In my experience with other cars, it seems that when a pad is bedded in with one rotor it feels best, but if you use multiple pads on one rotor the old pad material mixes with the new material causing uneven deposits and brake shudder. This seems to happen no matter what steps I take to clean the old material off and bed the new material.

That being said, are there any pads that seem more compliant with the oe pad as far as swaps go?

Or am I better off with a dual purpose pad?

If you're going to run a track pad, just drive around with them in when they're cold. They'll scrape off all the pad deposits and won't leave a layer unless you get them hot. Then install street pads and bed them in.

I like the StopTech performance street pad. Works pretty well for both but obviously won't last as long on the track, BUT they're pretty cheap at around $120 for fronts.

[Richard@M-World]

OP, I think before jumping to a recommendation, it would be wise to know your driving style and experience.

If you are a beginner, then StopTech Street Performance would work as a fine dual purpose pad. They are available on Amazon and cost almost nothing.

However, as you go faster and drive more aggressively, a dual purpose pad may not cut it anymore and that's where a race pad comes in.

There are many different types of race pads based on different materials/compounds. Each giving different characteristics such as initial bite, brake torque, modulation, longevity, etc.

But as far as most of us are concerned, you will have to decide whether you want a high torque/sprint race pad or a lower torque/endurance pad.

An example of the former would be the Hawk DTC-70. Of the latter would be Pagid RS-19. The trade off you are making is between braking power and longevity.

Hope this makes sense.

[jbraslins]

I prefer OEM pads for street driving, especially if you have warranty/free maintenance on your car. Dual purposes pads are a big compromise everywhere. Mainly, as you learn the track and your speed/skill increase, you'll find them lacking.

My advice, stick to OEM on street. Get a set of PFC 08s for track. They'll last you many HPDEs.

Like Richard above explained, PFC08s are the low torque/endurance pad. I find them easier to modulate and they last longer. In my opinion they brake/grab plenty hard for an HPDE. I don't see why you'd want to brake any harder in a daily driver.

[2000gsr]

Does anyone know if the hawk dtc 70 squeak as badly as the pagid rs19?

[Richard@M-World]

Originally Posted by 2000gsr

Does anyone know if the hawk dtc 70 squeak as badly as the pagid rs19?

I've only used DTC-70 on the track, so don't know how loud it is on the street. But as for Pagid RS-19, my customers have reported mixed experiences. Some people have had very little noise, while others say it sounds like a garbage truck. So it really depends on your car and where you live, I suppose.

[STALKER]

Originally Posted by Richard@M-World

I've only used DTC-70 on the track, so don't know how loud it is on the street. But as for Pagid RS-19, my customers have reported mixed experiences. Some people have had very little noise, while others say it sounds like a garbage truck. So it really depends on your car and where you live, I suppose.

I think in BBKs they are somewhat quiet, but noisy in OEM set ups?

Mine were quiet in my APs

[PrimeBMW]

I don't always track my E92 M3 but when I do I use Cobalt Friction XR-2. Turner motorsports and Fall Line also use Cobalt........most likely XR-1. These are real racing pads.

[Sleeper519]

Originally Posted by DiegoM

OK I'm really dumb when it comes to this but is it a must and/ or highly recommended to bleed and change the OEM brake fluid once I change to either Hawk DTC 70 or PFC01? Which fluid would you recommend!?

Not dumb at all. But yes, definitely change to a higher temp fluid. This should actually be the very first track mod, even before pad upgrades. i like Motul 600, but there are others that are well proven also. Just Search and ye shall find.

And I would encourage all folks in your position to learn to DIY brake pad and fluid flushes. It's super easy, gratifying, and saves lots of money.

[bigjae1976]

The PIA with the pagid pads is you do HAVE to bed them in if you switch pads. Otherwise you get deposits but goes away with some hard use. Performance Frictions don't need to be bedded in after OEM or Stoptech Street pads.

Otherwise, different strokes, different folks. There are fine differences but it comes down to cost for me. OEM Brakes = Pagid yellows; BBK = Stoptech racing pads.

Yes, should bleed in a higher temp fluid with higher temp (track) pads.

[HP Autosport]

Originally Posted by PandaM3

Any recommendations for dual purpose street and track pads?

Ferodo DS2500 will be as close as you will get to a street/track day pad.