Keep stock EDC (or) coil over?

ldireprophil · 06-23-2015, 08:39 PM

So, I just picked up a 2011 DCT Coupe. The ride with the EDC is WAY better than my 2004 6MT Vert with KW ST's. I have an opportunity to pick-up a used set of KW V2's off a friend's wrecked 2008 coupe. The last thing I want is to take a nice oem ride and make it worse. And for what...to lower the car .25" to give it a more aggressive stance? I'm not tracking this car just a DD. So, I can get a deal on these V2's and install, but I'm on the fence. Looking for opinions. Thanks.

my 2011 Coupe

my 2004 vert

4corners · 06-23-2015, 09:18 PM

Stock EDC is a good setup. Use it until it NEEDS replacing.

B8bydesign · 06-24-2015, 07:13 AM

If you're looking to lower the car but want to keep your EDC, then look into the KW H.A.S. kit. Probably a cheaper option than the V2's and it retains the EDC.

hayes180 · 06-24-2015, 04:45 PM

I love the EDC. Just did H&R Sport Springs on my buddies E92 so he can keep the EDC b/c he wanted something a little more lowered and more aggressive for track days, while still having the comfort of being a DD. The springs lowered the car about an inch all around. I have just ordered a set myself from a forum member and will eventually put them on. I think its the best option right now. He also added the H&R sway bar, which I will do... after I do some more track days and are getting more comfortable with my bimmer.

Evolve Automotive · 06-25-2015, 09:57 AM

EDC is very nice, but it all depends on what you're looking for. I ended up going with coilovers as it allowed me to go lower and wanted a stiffer ride.

xaappx · 06-27-2015, 03:29 PM

if you want to lower your car, and keep EDC, just get Swift Spec-R springs.

pooyab · 06-27-2015, 08:40 PM

Keeping my EDC but putting the KW springs on.

aus · 06-27-2015, 10:31 PM

How many miles in the EDC shocks. Normal BMW shocks are done around 40-50,000 miles.
Maybe buy the coils and lee them until you're at that mileage.

ilikebmxbikes · 06-27-2015, 11:30 PM

I was skeptical too of edc. My car came with dinan edc and had planned on changing them to ohlins but after tracking my e92 with the dinan edc Kit was very surprised and impressed with it. It's quite good.

FogCityM3 · 06-27-2015, 11:42 PM

for DD, probably coilover suspension not worth the cost. However, would say a good double-adjustable suspension may actually improve ride quality if you have the ZCP and EDC. My TC Kline D/A kit with relatively soft springs and soft settings rides better than the soft setting stock and definitely handles better than the stiffest setting with EDC. This is where the benefit of a rebound (as well as compression) adjustment helps keep the tire on the road. EDC only adjusts compression rates.

Bhdien · 06-30-2015, 07:56 PM

Did you shave the guide support and cut the bump stop when putting the h&r springs in? Or did you keep it stock?

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Originally Posted by hayes180

I love the EDC. Just did H&R Sport Springs on my buddies E92 so he can keep the EDC b/c he wanted something a little more lowered and more aggressive for track days, while still having the comfort of being a DD. The springs lowered the car about an inch all around. I have just ordered a set myself from a forum member and will eventually put them on. I think its the best option right now. He also added the H&R sway bar, which I will do... after I do some more track days and are getting more comfortable with my bimmer.

Shredicus · 06-30-2015, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhdien

Did you shave the guide support and cut the bump stop when putting the h&r springs in? Or did you keep it stock?

I was adamant about keeping EDC but wanted to lower/stiffen the ride a bit. Ended up picking up some fresh zcp(stiffer) struts and swift spec-r springs. Additionally I did the e36 bumpstops, shaved guide supports, dinan camber plates and even the dinan rear upper shock mount kit to preserve the suspension stroke back there.

Ride feels as good as stock(corroborated by my lady-friend) and the handling is noticeably improved from the stiffer rate springs/struts and lowered CoG, not to mention the look is spot on.

hayes180 · 06-30-2015, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhdien

Did you shave the guide support and cut the bump stop when putting the h&r springs in? Or did you keep it stock?

we kept it stock.. and it works great

Bhdien · 06-30-2015, 11:20 PM

Yea, I installed H&R on my car and the ride just seems ridiculously stiff. Although I don't know what stock rides like because the guy I bought the car from had crappy Megan's in it and it rode like crap. The H&r feels much much better, but I still think it's quite stiff. So I am just wondering if I should change out the bump stop and shave the top hat. Did you change the rear bump stop or kept the stock bump stop?

BzsBimmer · 07-03-2015, 12:23 PM

Id be weary of a KW kit from a wrecked car. Unless you can send them to KW to do a shock dyno or whatever that calibration process is called, it would be hard to say if a tab or rod didnt get slightly bent from the impact.

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ldireprophil Enlisted Member 17 Rep 48 Posts Drives: 2004 vert. 2011 coupe Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Canton GA iTrader: (0)	Keep stock EDC (or) coil over? So, I just picked up a 2011 DCT Coupe. The ride with the EDC is WAY better than my 2004 6MT Vert with KW ST's. I have an opportunity to pick-up a used set of KW V2's off a friend's wrecked 2008 coupe. The last thing I want is to take a nice oem ride and make it worse. And for what...to lower the car .25" to give it a more aggressive stance? I'm not tracking this car just a DD. So, I can get a deal on these V2's and install, but I'm on the fence. Looking for opinions. Thanks. my 2011 Coupe my 2004 vert
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hayes180 Captain 398 Rep 777 Posts Drives: E92 2013 M3 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: MRLS, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2013 E92 M3 [10.00]	I love the EDC. Just did H&R Sport Springs on my buddies E92 so he can keep the EDC b/c he wanted something a little more lowered and more aggressive for track days, while still having the comfort of being a DD. The springs lowered the car about an inch all around. I have just ordered a set myself from a forum member and will eventually put them on. I think its the best option right now. He also added the H&R sway bar, which I will do... after I do some more track days and are getting more comfortable with my bimmer.
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Evolve Automotive BimmerPost Supporting Vendor 118 Rep 691 Posts Drives: E46 M3 . E90 M3 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	EDC is very nice, but it all depends on what you're looking for. I ended up going with coilovers as it allowed me to go lower and wanted a stiffer ride.
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06-27-2015, 03:29 PM	#6
xaappx Lieutenant 199 Rep 487 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (2)	if you want to lower your car, and keep EDC, just get Swift Spec-R springs. __________________ 2004 M3 E46 LSB 6MT 2008 M3 E92 6MT 2024 M4 Competition xDrive
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pooyab Major 330 Rep 1,158 Posts Drives: 2011 BMW M3 2020 BMW M5C Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Bay Area, CA iTrader: (2) Garage List 2011 BMW M3 [0.00]	Keeping my EDC but putting the KW springs on. __________________ Interlagos Blue/Speed Cloth \| BayOptiks DTM Headlights \| Alpine Stage 2 \| KW Clubsport \| Resonated X-Pipe \| Eisenmann Race \| StopTech BBK \| TE37SL \| YFCM CF Driveshaft \| Hotchkis F/R Sways \| F/R Endlinks \| Turner Control Arms and Front Tension Bushings \| Powerflex Diff Bushings \| Turner Solid Subframe Bushings \| MS Underdrive Pulley and Intake \| Alpine DCT Tune \| Karbonius Intake \| Carbon Roof (TBD)
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06-27-2015, 10:31 PM	#8
aus Major General 892 Rep 9,032 Posts Drives: Odysse Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seal Beach, CA iTrader: (10)	How many miles in the EDC shocks. Normal BMW shocks are done around 40-50,000 miles. Maybe buy the coils and lee them until you're at that mileage.
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ilikebmxbikes Banned 1518 Rep 4,744 Posts Drives: S65 1M Clone & E92 M3 4.6L Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: San Francisco iTrader: (42) Garage List '08/13 1M Clone 4.0L [10.00] '11 e92 M3 4.6L [10.00]	I was skeptical too of edc. My car came with dinan edc and had planned on changing them to ohlins but after tracking my e92 with the dinan edc Kit was very surprised and impressed with it. It's quite good.
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FogCityM3 Colonel 499 Rep 2,400 Posts Drives: M3 (E90) & Porsche GT3 RS Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: San Francisco iTrader: (0)	for DD, probably coilover suspension not worth the cost. However, would say a good double-adjustable suspension may actually improve ride quality if you have the ZCP and EDC. My TC Kline D/A kit with relatively soft springs and soft settings rides better than the soft setting stock and definitely handles better than the stiffest setting with EDC. This is where the benefit of a rebound (as well as compression) adjustment helps keep the tire on the road. EDC only adjusts compression rates.
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06-30-2015, 11:20 PM	#14
Bhdien Private First Class 23 Rep 144 Posts Drives: 2009 BMW M3 Sedan Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Wichita iTrader: (4)	Yea, I installed H&R on my car and the ride just seems ridiculously stiff. Although I don't know what stock rides like because the guy I bought the car from had crappy Megan's in it and it rode like crap. The H&r feels much much better, but I still think it's quite stiff. So I am just wondering if I should change out the bump stop and shave the top hat. Did you change the rear bump stop or kept the stock bump stop?
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BzsBimmer Major General 3274 Rep 6,723 Posts Drives: '23 G80 FO M3, M3 & MY Tezzy's Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nor. Cal iTrader: (32)	Id be weary of a KW kit from a wrecked car. Unless you can send them to KW to do a shock dyno or whatever that calibration process is called, it would be hard to say if a tab or rod didnt get slightly bent from the impact.
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