Carbon Black v. Jerez Black

Seattle S65B40 · 07-01-2011, 10:45 AM

Anyone have any pics comparing these two colors side by side? If things go well for me to close out the year, I would love to pick up a new 2012 Individual Carbon Black E92 M3 ZCP with Rust Brown interior (or Portland Brown if available). But is it worth the extra money for Individual Carbon Black when Jerez Black is almost the same? If anyone has a friend with a CB E46 M3 or E63 M6 or E39 M5 or E65 Individual 7 series and can get a pic of that color next to their Jerez Black E9X M3, i would greatly appreciate it.

I get the feeling Carbon Black is more blue, which is what I would want:

I believe this is carbon black

But then Jerez Black looks blue too?

Technic · 07-01-2011, 10:59 AM

I used to have a Carbon Black E46 M3 with Cinnamon and I really loved that combo, and still I do very much. However I picked Jerez Black (with Rust Brown) for my 2012 M3 as I do not see the $5000 difference from Carbon Black.

I only can see a $550 difference...

Technic · 07-01-2011, 11:01 AM

... and yes, Carbon Black is more blue than Jerez Black.

Seattle S65B40 · 07-01-2011, 11:19 AM

Good point, Technic. If I'm going to do an Individual Color, why not do something different. The two colors are very similar, but I do love that more bluish look to CB in sunlight. I also think it's more of a non-metallic paint, whereas JZB is more metallic...

rjd598 · 07-01-2011, 11:26 AM

I think you should go for the midnight blue. That will probably get you the right amount of blue/black combo you want.

Technic · 07-01-2011, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rjd598

I think you should go for the midnight blue. That will probably get you the right amount of blue/black combo you want.

IMO, if you want to really pop... Ruby Black. That looks like $5000 there.

Anything else is like one shade away from Carbon Black.

Technic · 07-01-2011, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattle S65B40

Good point, Technic. If I'm going to do an Individual Color, why not do something different. The two colors are very similar, but I do love that more bluish look to CB in sunlight. I also think it's more of a non-metallic paint, whereas JZB is more metallic...

You know, I see it backwards... Carbon Black being more metallic than Jerez Black.

Seattle S65B40 · 07-28-2011, 03:58 PM

Borrowing pics from Atomic 80 that were taken at the recent car show up here, we can really see the difference between the two colors in sunlight:

Jerez (Bapesta206's sick car)

Carbon Black (not sure who's E39 M5)

I think Technic was right, Carbon Black is more metallic. And yes, it's also more blue... Same conclusion though : not worth the Individual upcharge for CB.

JulieDriving · 07-28-2011, 09:50 PM

^^ Thanks for the pix. Man, those colors look similar.......

AngelinIsRich08 · 07-28-2011, 09:58 PM

I have a CB X5M and it's awesome. Sometimes it's a dark blue and sometimes it's a black; all of that is dependent on the lighting.

DJDeez · 07-28-2011, 11:02 PM

They look very different yet similar at the same time, does that even make sense?! I would (personally) choose Jerez Black seeing as you wouldn't be paying any additional charges

PKL · 07-29-2011, 01:36 AM

If you are thinking of paying $5000 for Carbon Black when Jerez is available for $600 you are smoking the best crack America has to offer. The colors are virtually identical. I owned a 2006 Carbon/Red and now I own 2011 Jerez/Red. I have no idea what the difference is. If someone says Carbon is more blue, I cannot tell. And I've OWNED both.

Seattle S65B40 · 07-29-2011, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by PKL

If you are thinking of paying $5000 for Carbon Black when Jerez is available for $600 you are smoking the best crack America has to offer. The colors are virtually identical. I owned a 2006 Carbon/Red and now I own 2011 Jerez/Red. I have no idea what the difference is. If someone says Carbon is more blue, I cannot tell. And I've OWNED both.

The end conclusion reached by myself and others is that it's not worth it. HOWEVER, they are not the same color. Look at the second set of pics I posted. Then look at the reflection of the sun in each photo. From there, you easily see that CB is more blue. Not by much, but it is. BMW would not make "virtually" the same color under two different names.

Totti · 07-29-2011, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by PKL

If you are thinking of paying $5000 for Carbon Black when Jerez is available for $600 you are smoking the best crack America has to offer.

So true though. I cannot for the life of me tell the difference - Seen both side by side in showroom.

DJDeez · 07-29-2011, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by PKL

If you are thinking of paying $5000 for Carbon Black when Jerez is available for $600 you are smoking the best crack America has to offer.

This

Bosna · 07-29-2011, 10:35 AM

Jerez is definitely more black. A buddy of mine has an E46 M3 in CB while mine is JZB. JZB also looks violet under certain lights which makes the color look very exotic. JZB is probably my favorite color I've had on any car I've owned.

PKL · 07-29-2011, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bosna

Jerez is definitely more black. A buddy of mine has an E46 M3 in CB while mine is JZB. JZB also looks violet under certain lights which makes the color look very exotic. JZB is probably my favorite color I've had on any car I've owned.

Put on Polarized sunglasses and Jerez looks straight Purple Metallic in the sun. Pretty cool.

I get that Carbon is more blue and Jerez is more black, I'm just saying the colors are far too similar to pay Individual Paint price.

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Seattle S65B40 Major 213 Rep 1,395 Posts Drives: 2008 e92 M3 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: PNW iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 BMW M3 [0.00]	Carbon Black v. Jerez Black Anyone have any pics comparing these two colors side by side? If things go well for me to close out the year, I would love to pick up a new 2012 Individual Carbon Black E92 M3 ZCP with Rust Brown interior (or Portland Brown if available). But is it worth the extra money for Individual Carbon Black when Jerez Black is almost the same? If anyone has a friend with a CB E46 M3 or E63 M6 or E39 M5 or E65 Individual 7 series and can get a pic of that color next to their Jerez Black E9X M3, i would greatly appreciate it. I get the feeling Carbon Black is more blue, which is what I would want: I believe this is carbon black But then Jerez Black looks blue too? __________________ Club 6MT 2008 E92 M3 6MT, AW/Blk Ext., brushed aluminum 2006 E46 M3 ZCP 6MT Carbon blk/blk(sold) 2001 E46 325Xi 5MT Jet Blk/Blk (sold) Last edited by Seattle S65B40; 07-01-2011 at 10:52 AM..
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Technic Lieutenant General 2277 Rep 12,996 Posts Drives: 2021 i3S, 2024 i4 M50 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Florida iTrader: (18)	I used to have a Carbon Black E46 M3 with Cinnamon and I really loved that combo, and still I do very much. However I picked Jerez Black (with Rust Brown) for my 2012 M3 as I do not see the $5000 difference from Carbon Black. I only can see a $550 difference...
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Seattle S65B40 Major 213 Rep 1,395 Posts Drives: 2008 e92 M3 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: PNW iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 BMW M3 [0.00]	Good point, Technic. If I'm going to do an Individual Color, why not do something different. The two colors are very similar, but I do love that more bluish look to CB in sunlight. I also think it's more of a non-metallic paint, whereas JZB is more metallic... __________________ Club 6MT 2008 E92 M3 6MT, AW/Blk Ext., brushed aluminum 2006 E46 M3 ZCP 6MT Carbon blk/blk(sold) 2001 E46 325Xi 5MT Jet Blk/Blk (sold)
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rjd598 Banned 1770 Rep 6,696 Posts Drives: F30 340i Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: San Diego,CA iTrader: (2) Garage List 2016 BMW 340i [0.00]	I think you should go for the midnight blue. That will probably get you the right amount of blue/black combo you want.
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Seattle S65B40 Major 213 Rep 1,395 Posts Drives: 2008 e92 M3 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: PNW iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 BMW M3 [0.00]	Borrowing pics from Atomic 80 that were taken at the recent car show up here, we can really see the difference between the two colors in sunlight: Jerez (Bapesta206's sick car) Carbon Black (not sure who's E39 M5) I think Technic was right, Carbon Black is more metallic. And yes, it's also more blue... Same conclusion though : not worth the Individual upcharge for CB. __________________ Club 6MT 2008 E92 M3 6MT, AW/Blk Ext., brushed aluminum 2006 E46 M3 ZCP 6MT Carbon blk/blk(sold) 2001 E46 325Xi 5MT Jet Blk/Blk (sold) Last edited by Seattle S65B40; 07-28-2011 at 04:07 PM..
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DJDeez Got my license back! 14 Rep 205 Posts Drives: TransLink Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: YVR iTrader: (2)	They look very different yet similar at the same time, does that even make sense?! I would (personally) choose Jerez Black seeing as you wouldn't be paying any additional charges
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PKL Brigadier General 846 Rep 3,274 Posts Drives: 2020 M4, 2022 X6 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Fernando Valley iTrader: (1)	If you are thinking of paying $5000 for Carbon Black when Jerez is available for $600 you are smoking the best crack America has to offer. The colors are virtually identical. I owned a 2006 Carbon/Red and now I own 2011 Jerez/Red. I have no idea what the difference is. If someone says Carbon is more blue, I cannot tell. And I've OWNED both. __________________
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Bosna Picking fights with sharks 5 Rep 133 Posts Drives: 2011 M3 ZCP Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Portland, OR iTrader: (0)	Jerez is definitely more black. A buddy of mine has an E46 M3 in CB while mine is JZB. JZB also looks violet under certain lights which makes the color look very exotic. JZB is probably my favorite color I've had on any car I've owned. __________________ 2011.5 M3 Coupe DCT 2007 Lotus Exige S 6MT 2005 545i 6MT Fast is subjective.
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