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      01-18-2013, 10:36 PM   #111
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      01-18-2013, 10:38 PM   #112
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It is more likely that the C7 performance is nipping at the heels of the C6 Z06, I am sure a C6 Grand Sport will be no match for the Stingray.

The problem with Corvettes, that I hope they've eliminated with the C7, is dealing with tire roar, terrible Chevy service departments, fit & finish issues (shrinking carpet, squeaky seats, etc) and cabin heat soak. But the worst thing about my 2008 Z06 was the fact that it was an incredibly fast car that just didn't feel like it was incredibly fast. Steering feel was numb, gearing was so long that you didn't get that kick-in-the-pants feel. And then there is the Corvette stigma - no matter how much you don't care, it still becomes an issue now and then.

The C7 is obviously a huge step forward from the C6, but they need to make the driver feel more connected to the car as I do in my GT-R. If they can fix that problem, and they can give me a turbo V8 for the next Z06 for under $80k, I'll consider selling the Nissan.
doubt the turbo v8 is gonna happen. some things are still sacred hopefully. big v8s, rear wheel drive and threesomes.
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      01-18-2013, 10:40 PM   #113
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It is more likely that the C7 performance is nipping at the heels of the C6 Z06, I am sure a C6 Grand Sport will be no match for the Stingray.

The problem with Corvettes, that I hope they've eliminated with the C7, is dealing with tire roar, terrible Chevy service departments, fit & finish issues (shrinking carpet, squeaky seats, etc) and cabin heat soak. But the worst thing about my 2008 Z06 was the fact that it was an incredibly fast car that just didn't feel like it was incredibly fast. Steering feel was numb, gearing was so long that you didn't get that kick-in-the-pants feel. And then there is the Corvette stigma - no matter how much you don't care, it still becomes an issue now and then.

The C7 is obviously a huge step forward from the C6, but they need to make the driver feel more connected to the car as I do in my GT-R. If they can fix that problem, and they can give me a turbo V8 for the next Z06 for under $80k, I'll consider selling the Nissan.
Are you nuts?!?!? The Z06 didnt feel fast and you didnt get that kick in the pants? Did you drive it or park it? I had an 07 Z06 and it sure as hell felt fast and was a mule kick in the pants. And about your GTR. How the hell do you feel more connected to a lifeless car? Its been criticized over and over again as being a robot on the street. I guess different strokes for different folks
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      01-18-2013, 10:49 PM   #114
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Confused. On the track, especially, a Corvette will destroy an M3, particularly if you are talking Z06 or ZR1.
Negative...a base C6 Vette with the LS3 is no better than an E92 M3 on the track. Ask me how I know. I've owned both and there is not a dimes worth of difference in general performance until you go to a Z06/Zr1. As a matter of fact, a novice in an M3 will most likely kick the ass of a novice in the non Z06/ZR1 C6....Vettes are not easy to drive on the track.

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      01-19-2013, 01:45 AM   #115
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I had an invitation to the Manhattan debut of the C7 Thursday night. It was very well received. I got to sit in it and the seats were very good and the interior is a pleasant place to be.

They had a few classic Corvettes on display including the oldest Corvette, a 1953 prototype that was built for the GM Motorama show at the Waldorf Astoria 60 years ago.

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      01-19-2013, 03:00 AM   #116
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I had an invitation to the Manhattan debut of the C7 Thursday night. It was very well received. I got to sit in it and the seats were very good and the interior is a pleasant place to be.

They had a few classic Corvettes on display including the oldest Corvette, a 1953 prototype that was built for the GM Motorama show at the Waldorf Astoria 60 years ago.

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sweet. any pics?
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      01-19-2013, 10:21 AM   #118
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that is an interesting side by side. the mouth, the headlights, the hood vent double bubble roof all look similar.
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red blue and dark gray are all so great but i think im partial ever so slightly to the blue.
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      01-19-2013, 12:39 PM   #120
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      01-19-2013, 12:52 PM   #121
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News flash – they are selling VIN 0001 of the new Corvette this evening at Barrett Jackson auction on Speed. Presumably for charity. They’ve got it there....
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      01-19-2013, 02:56 PM   #122
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Are you nuts?!?!? The Z06 didnt feel fast and you didnt get that kick in the pants? Did you drive it or park it? I had an 07 Z06 and it sure as hell felt fast and was a mule kick in the pants. And about your GTR. How the hell do you feel more connected to a lifeless car? Its been criticized over and over again as being a robot on the street. I guess different strokes for different folks
The GTR has good steering feel and road feel, but is called robot like by some journalists because of its point and shoot tendency and its ease to drive fast. Whereas the Z06 will kick its back end with just a stare and hard to drive fast, while the steering and road feel isn't as good.
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      01-19-2013, 03:07 PM   #123
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It looks NASA designed. Love the rear booster rockets!
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I'm a former c5 z06 owner. I was going to preorder but now I dont know. Looks like I'll have the e92 a bit longer. I hope it just photographs badly, because in pics I'm not sold.
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that is an interesting side by side. the mouth, the headlights, the hood vent double bubble roof all look similar.
I think the turn signals, in the headlight assembly, are compliments of Ferrari 458 Italia too
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hopefully it improves vette driver skillz....

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      01-20-2013, 12:10 AM   #128
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sadly the more I look at it the uglier I think it looks....
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      01-20-2013, 12:22 AM   #129
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sadly the more I look at it the uglier I think it looks....
i thought it looked ugly to start and was thinking it would grow on me.
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The rear looks like a Camaro fucked a TransAm. Other than that it looks good, but I still have a very sour taste in my mouth from GM products.
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sadly the more I look at it the uglier I think it looks....
Im with you on that. It's from the over the top styling.
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I had an invitation to the Manhattan debut of the C7 Thursday night. It was very well received. I got to sit in it and the seats were very good and the interior is a pleasant place to be.

They had a few classic Corvettes on display including the oldest Corvette, a 1953 prototype that was built for the GM Motorama show at the Waldorf Astoria 60 years ago.

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You were there? Ok, so is the rear end really as gross looking in person, or is this actually a car we would want to own?
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