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i wrote this thread using my ipod touch i have no idea why all these things came but wooow we have to make a pool...back to the M3, i wasn't refering to zcp...even if i did i still think that jeremy would still pick the m3 with the zcp cause it just made the audi rs5 look like a show off...but i prefer the non zcp cause it's not stiff nor low on the ground..maybe that's just me because of the horible roads in my country that make even my X5 uncomfortable.
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Yeah. Was about to throw down some powershell commands as a way of replying.
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It.Is.Not.Available.In.Any.Other.Variant.In.Austra lia. You take the competition package, or you don't. You can't simply pick and choose options out of it. If you want the suspension and the wheels, it adds up to the same cost as the pack. Then you don't get the remapped DSC. Or EDC. And you have a wannabee ZCP. Capiche?
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Since my car barely clears my steep driveway, I would have no use for the ZCP option with the lowered suspension. However, I do like the wheels...which I bought separately. As for the EDC and MDM settings...I prefer the comfort setting and really have no use for the mdm. Will Turner of Turner Motorsports once said after testing the M3 that the best position for the fastest times was the Comfort mode as the car leans the most and gives you the best grip coming out of corners. He thought the other two positions were too firm. At the track, DSC is off....on the road DSC is on. Doesn't the Lotus Elise have a traction/stability control with like 17 different positions? I can just hear them arguing which position is best.
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Just for the record I plan to use my ZCP (19's, lowered susp.) every time I get in the car.
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No, I understood it. I'm saying why buy a car most of us will never put on the track when it's meant to be better on the track?
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It's actually active SHOCKS . Active suspension is a different animal, and it's WAY more expensive and complex. The good thing about it is it maintains a perfectly level attitude during cornering, by adding pressure to the outward springs. And a cushy ride when in 'comfort' mode. I don't remember if it was a Benz or BMW that had it a while back, but had numerous issues. |
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But in case you want to continue the shananigans, please start a new topic "Hey 95% percent of us won't track this car - so why buy it?", instead of hijacking this one. Though, clearly no one should buy this car at all, since there are much, much better track cars. So don't stop at this forum - I'd take this all the way to BMW AG, with a harsh letter demanding they stop producing the M3, or at least require a race license to buy one for god sakes. You know, it's almost like BMW intends the M3 to be a great all-around-er or something like that, not a track car? But... hmm... no that can't be it - probably best to go back to your original line of haphazard thinking, logic, and sensless ridicule. Productive, that. |
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The remapped EDC and shocks will make a difference, but enough to be worthy to buy for a street car? Granted, while I don't use my M3 to its full potential by throwing it on the track (I just got it, so I'm enjoying driving it daily first until I pay more of it off), but I do enjoy and use certain bits of it from time to time on back roads or other deserted areas to blow it out a bit. I do try and refrain from doing anything too crazy, though. But yeah, I understood exactly what he meant. It's the same argument I have with people who talk about the crazy performance bits they want/need to add to their M3s that'll make 600-700 hp or more. What's the point? You've ruined the very nature of why the M3 was so good to begin with. Oh, and I do push my Power and EDC buttons often. If I have them there, I'm going to use them. I'll change the settings every so often to see what I like and don't like. I'm a fiddler, so it's worth it to me. The Competition Package wouldn't do me any good, though, because it's not enough of a change to make a difference for daily usage. As it's nothing more than a bragging right for many people I've met and talked to thus far. Some people will absolutely use it to its full potential and value, but the ones I've met haven't yet. They've just made odd comments about how I bought the wrong car, or shouldn't have bought an M3 at all because I didn't get it M-DCT or with ZCP... A bit odd for someone with an almost identical car who also call themselves a BMW enthusiast. But please, keep going on with your argument. I enjoy reading what's on your mind.
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No, because you see, you are still failing to grasp my initial statement and what mkoesel has been trying to drum into your head for a couple of days now.
The Competition package retails for $9,900 in Australia. You cannot pick and choose options, if you want it take it, if you don't then don't. By way of contrast, the WHEELS alone as a separate option will run you $9,900 (source: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=526428) Now, I'm not sure if you realise you but: Quote:
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Please remove your head from the sand and realise your opinion in this thread is not the be all and end all of BMW.
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