iPhone 4 cradles - Part Numbers

puchtuner · 02-01-2011, 12:27 PM

hi,

i'm reading sometimes in your forum. I'm from Austria and I'm a lucky owner of an M3 e46, M5 e60, 2002 race car and from an original m3 e30 dtm!

I have a small question, is anybody able to say me the dimensions of the cradle? i want to build it into my m3 e46 and i need them

sorry for my bad english!

abugiacomo · 02-01-2011, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Anup@Project 808

So regardless of any option, you need smart phone integration.

so smart phone integration is a pre-requisite factory installed option for the iphone cradle to work?

apw2607 · 02-01-2011, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abugiacomo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anup@Project 808

So regardless of any option, you need smart phone integration.

so smart phone integration is a pre-requisite factory installed option for the iphone cradle to work?

No.

Most cars will work with the basic cradle. You'll need to also purchase the base plate and a trim piece.

Only cars with the smartphone factory option and the new app option can take advantage of the music and media cradles.

gmike · 02-05-2011, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by apw2607

No.

Most cars will work with the basic cradle. You'll need to also purchase the base plate and a trim piece.

Only cars with the smartphone factory option and the new app option can take advantage of the music and media cradles.

So, I have a 2011 M3 with 6NF but my build date was May 2010. I currently have the 3G iPhone adapter. It is useless for my iPhone 4 but it was great for the 3G. Does this mean that the music adapter will not work with my car? What! Does the basic adapter play music or is it just for phone connectivity? The first batch of 2011 M3s did not support A2DP or cover art, and as far as I know, they are not upgradeable. Is that right? Am I stuck with the Y adapter? The original Apple iPhone USB cable doesn't even work with this idrive version.

Technic · 02-05-2011, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by gmike

So, I have a 2011 M3 with 6NF but my build date was May 2010. I currently have the 3G iPhone adapter. It is useless for my iPhone 4 but it was great for the 3G. Does this mean that the music adapter will not work with my car? What! Does the basic adapter play music or is it just for phone connectivity? The first batch of 2011 M3s did not support A2DP or cover art, and as far as I know, they are not upgradeable. Is that right? Am I stuck with the Y adapter? The original Apple iPhone USB cable doesn't even work with this idrive version.

You answered your own question: there's no Combox in your 05/10 production M3 so the 6NR and any of its features do not apply to your car.

alpina527 · 02-05-2011, 05:19 PM

From the photo, it doesn't look like it will fit when the phone has a bumper case fitted,

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...3&postcount=15

apw2607 · 02-05-2011, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by alpina527

From the photo, it doesn't look like it will fit when the phone has a bumper case fitted,

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...3&postcount=15

Yea, you won't be able to use the bumper or any case. For one it would mess up the cradles inductive coupling connection to the phone, so it can use the cars external antenna.

apw2607 · 02-05-2011, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by gmike

So, I have a 2011 M3 with 6NF but my build date was May 2010. I currently have the 3G iPhone adapter. It is useless for my iPhone 4 but it was great for the 3G. Does this mean that the music adapter will not work with my car? What! Does the basic adapter play music or is it just for phone connectivity?
Is that right? Am I stuck with the Y adapter? The original Apple iPhone USB cable doesn't even work with this idrive version.

Hmm .. lots of questions here. Take it one by one.

I have a 2011 M3 with 6NF but my build date was May 2010

>> Thats good. So this means you're be able to buy the iPhone 4 music cradle/adapter.

Does the basic adapter play music or is it just for phone connectivity?

>> Well the basic adapter is just for phone charging and allowing it to use the cars external antenna. Connectivity for calls is still actually done via bluetooth. The basic adapter won't provide music support though.

The first batch of 2011 M3s did not support A2DP or cover art, and as far as I know, they are not upgradeable.

>> Correct, but check out the "combox" retrofit thread. This would apply to you and potentially allow you to gain these features. Its not officially offered by BMW but theres folks on this forum offering a retrofit .. or will offer it soon-ish.

Is that right? Am I stuck with the Y adapter? The original Apple iPhone USB cable doesn't even work with this idrive version.

>> Yup, for now, unless you go down the Combox retrofit path ... or you buy the new Iphone 4 music cradle.

Good luck.

drjoe66 · 02-06-2011, 05:11 PM

So, does anybody actually have a IPhone 4 cradle in their car by now?

eisenb11 · 02-07-2011, 01:06 PM

BMW really needs to get their act together on releasing cradles. We're about 4 months away from the release of the iPhone 5! Considering that many people update their iPhone every year, it would be nice if they could release the docks within the first couple of months.

ksoze · 02-07-2011, 01:28 PM

What we will need is a iPhone Cradle trading spot - so there can be a place to trade/sell cradles as users upgrade.

drjoe66 · 02-08-2011, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by eisenb11

BMW really needs to get their act together on releasing cradles. We're about 4 months away from the release of the iPhone 5! Considering that many people update their iPhone every year, it would be nice if they could release the docks within the first couple of months.

I agree 100%. This is pathetic. They sell the smartphone integration option but no cradle.

scott@bmwhn · 02-08-2011, 04:13 PM

As annoying as it is, BMW can't be completely blamed for this. The cell phone industry is probably one of the fastest changing/evolving industries with very little standarization between manufacturers, BMW is always playing catch-up.

rtcage · 02-08-2011, 04:21 PM

I'm sure the Verizon phone may have also contributed a delay. It has to be tough for companies like BMW to keep up. I can't wait for it to come out but am not surprised that is taking a while.

dirtyfreebooter · 02-08-2011, 04:41 PM

BMW is to blame, iPhone 3G and iPhone 3GS run the same OS as iPhone 4. It's a form factor issue. In fact, some forum members have successfully converted 3GS adapters to fit the iPhone 4 by sawing off small pieces that blocked the iPhone 4 from properly sitting in the cradle.

The Music and Video adapter maybe one thing, since it requires a March 2011 build date, but they could have released the adapter and music versions months ago. It just sucks to buy the smartphone integration and not be able to use it because you have a phone that is popular, sold by a single company, and 8-9 months old. On top of the fact that Apple gives case and accessory suppliers early form factor info... not to mention the fact that BMW and Apple are in bed together. It is just low on BMW priority list.

drjoe66 · 02-08-2011, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by robackja

BMW is to blame, iPhone 3G and iPhone 3GS run the same OS as iPhone 4. It's a form factor issue. In fact, some forum members have successfully converted 3GS adapters to fit the iPhone 4 by sawing off small pieces that blocked the iPhone 4 from properly sitting in the cradle.

Agree 100%. The jailbreak was out the day th Iphone 4 came out...
bmwusa.com states clearly that the smartphone integration is:

"For iPhone™ and similar devices, allows access to stored music, can improve signal reception, and recharges the battery." IPhone 4 is also listed as a compatible device.

To me, this is false advertising. It is not fully compatible at this moment with the smartphone integration.

buddster · 02-11-2011, 03:16 AM

I modified a 3GS adapter and it doesn't work. My iPhone 4 fits perfect in the adapter but I get an error message saying it's not made for that adapter. The I-Drive can't see the phone when attached. If I plug it into the wired adapter it recognizes it no problem. Anyone else have this problem?

Locksmythe · 02-11-2011, 09:38 PM

My '09 Idrive software was updated this week and now have some issues. Wondering if they loaded 11.5 combox software by mistake. I see a video option in the menu that doesnt work, I have a blank place for album artwork that does not work, and have no entries for song/album/artist listed. It will load names if i search, but still wont display them in current playback.

dirtyfreebooter · 02-11-2011, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Locksmythe

My '09 Idrive software was updated this week and now have some issues. Wondering if they loaded 11.5 combox software by mistake. I see a video option in the menu that doesnt work, I have a blank place for album artwork that does not work, and have no entries for song/album/artist listed. It will load names if i search, but still wont display them in current playback.

No offense, but are you trying to jack this thread? What does your software update have to do with iPhone cradles?

Locksmythe · 02-11-2011, 11:11 PM

Uh, fair enough. I did a search and this was the thread the best discussed the functions I was having trouble with. read so many I forgot which I was posting in.

edit: I see now I linked into this thread froma post in the thread I meant to post in. oh well.

Mineral M3 · 02-15-2011, 09:15 AM

All these iPhone 4 parts are very confusing. My UK dealer has told me the part for the iPhone 4 is not out yet? Anyone in the UK who has it, please let me know where you got it from.

Thanks

///M Rakete · 02-15-2011, 04:49 PM

According to my parts department the numbers are in the parts system and can be ordered as of February 17.

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puchtuner Registered 0 Rep 1 Posts Drives: BMW M3 E46 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Austria iTrader: (0)	hi, i'm reading sometimes in your forum. I'm from Austria and I'm a lucky owner of an M3 e46, M5 e60, 2002 race car and from an original m3 e30 dtm! I have a small question, is anybody able to say me the dimensions of the cradle? i want to build it into my m3 e46 and i need them sorry for my bad english!
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02-05-2011, 05:19 PM	#28
alpina527 Banned 60 Rep 638 Posts Drives: 2008 E92 M3 DCT JZB/FR Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: London, England iTrader: (1)	From the photo, it doesn't look like it will fit when the phone has a bumper case fitted, http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...3&postcount=15
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02-06-2011, 05:11 PM	#31
drjoe66 Captain 329 Rep 757 Posts Drives: 2021 M5 & 2019 X3 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Carolinas iTrader: (0)	So, does anybody actually have a IPhone 4 cradle in their car by now? __________________ 2019 X3 2021 M5 Comp On order: 2022 X3M40i
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eisenb11 Major 53 Rep 1,153 Posts Drives: 2012 E92 M3 SSII Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Redondo Beach, CA, USA iTrader: (0)	BMW really needs to get their act together on releasing cradles. We're about 4 months away from the release of the iPhone 5! Considering that many people update their iPhone every year, it would be nice if they could release the docks within the first couple of months.
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ksoze Major 376 Rep 1,223 Posts Drives: 2018 M550iX Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Maryland iTrader: (0)	What we will need is a iPhone Cradle trading spot - so there can be a place to trade/sell cradles as users upgrade. __________________ 2018 M550iX-Dinan Stage 1 \| 2011 E93 M3 Convertible \| 2002 E46 M3 Convertible \| 2002 E53 X5 3.0 \| 2000 E39 540i \| 1998 E36 M3 \| 1988 E28 M5 \| 1987 E28 528i
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02-08-2011, 04:13 PM	#35
scott@bmwhn Major 133 Rep 1,245 Posts Drives: Msport X3 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Houston iTrader: (3)	As annoying as it is, BMW can't be completely blamed for this. The cell phone industry is probably one of the fastest changing/evolving industries with very little standarization between manufacturers, BMW is always playing catch-up. __________________ 03' 525iT stick, 22' 530i Previous: 20' X3 M40i, 19' 740i Msport, 17' 430i GC, 15' Msport X3 28i, 15' Sportline X1 28i, 13' Msport 328i, 09' Msport 335i, 07' Msport 335i
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rtcage New Member 4 Rep 17 Posts Drives: Maybe a 2011 X5 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: So. Cal. iTrader: (0)	I'm sure the Verizon phone may have also contributed a delay. It has to be tough for companies like BMW to keep up. I can't wait for it to come out but am not surprised that is taking a while.
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dirtyfreebooter Captain 341 Rep 655 Posts Drives: Vespa Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Boulder, CO iTrader: (2)	BMW is to blame, iPhone 3G and iPhone 3GS run the same OS as iPhone 4. It's a form factor issue. In fact, some forum members have successfully converted 3GS adapters to fit the iPhone 4 by sawing off small pieces that blocked the iPhone 4 from properly sitting in the cradle. The Music and Video adapter maybe one thing, since it requires a March 2011 build date, but they could have released the adapter and music versions months ago. It just sucks to buy the smartphone integration and not be able to use it because you have a phone that is popular, sold by a single company, and 8-9 months old. On top of the fact that Apple gives case and accessory suppliers early form factor info... not to mention the fact that BMW and Apple are in bed together. It is just low on BMW priority list.
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02-11-2011, 03:16 AM	#39
buddster Second Lieutenant 64 Rep 269 Posts Drives: 2022 M8 Gran Coupe Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Austin, TX iTrader: (0)	I modified a 3GS adapter and it doesn't work. My iPhone 4 fits perfect in the adapter but I get an error message saying it's not made for that adapter. The I-Drive can't see the phone when attached. If I plug it into the wired adapter it recognizes it no problem. Anyone else have this problem?
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02-11-2011, 09:38 PM	#40
Locksmythe First Lieutenant 48 Rep 378 Posts Drives: 2009 e92 M3 AW/FR Join Date: May 2009 Location: Virginia iTrader: (0)	My '09 Idrive software was updated this week and now have some issues. Wondering if they loaded 11.5 combox software by mistake. I see a video option in the menu that doesnt work, I have a blank place for album artwork that does not work, and have no entries for song/album/artist listed. It will load names if i search, but still wont display them in current playback.
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Locksmythe First Lieutenant 48 Rep 378 Posts Drives: 2009 e92 M3 AW/FR Join Date: May 2009 Location: Virginia iTrader: (0)	Uh, fair enough. I did a search and this was the thread the best discussed the functions I was having trouble with. read so many I forgot which I was posting in. edit: I see now I linked into this thread froma post in the thread I meant to post in. oh well. Last edited by Locksmythe; 02-11-2011 at 11:26 PM..
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Mineral M3 Enlisted Member 2 Rep 33 Posts Drives: M3 E92 M-DCT Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Tring iTrader: (0)	All these iPhone 4 parts are very confusing. My UK dealer has told me the part for the iPhone 4 is not out yet? Anyone in the UK who has it, please let me know where you got it from. Thanks __________________ Mineral White, black leather, Carbon trim, M-DCT, 19" M alloys, iDrive, BMW Business.. plus lots more.
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