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We already did the following supercharger setups on the S62: 5 PSi - 530 crank stock car 7 PSi - 580 crank with Evolve S62 Headers 8 PSi - 590 crank with Evolve Headers (notice the boost not doing much now.... plenum... see next) 6.5 PSi - 660 crank with Evolve build engine, Evolve headers, 268 Cams, Evolve Modified Cyl heads (This was one super efficient engine requiring serious airflow) 6.25 PSi - 620 crank, evolve headers, evolve supercharger optimised billet plenum We think we can get close to 700 crank with bringing the blower closer to it's limit with the built engine cammed car above using the billet plenum. |
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01-30-2014, 05:20 PM | #442 | |
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Like I stated, NONE of the performance tables that matter can be changed with a piggyback. AND if you look at that thread, other members agree that tuning for meth is a formula for disaster. Also, you should look into other platforms that have more data on meth use. It is known to be corrosive on cylinder walls and thins oil very quickly.
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01-30-2014, 05:20 PM | #443 |
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*lol* I *really* like the mechanical look that the rivets/bolts provide. The nuance/vibe it gives off is completely different.
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01-30-2014, 05:30 PM | #444 | |
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I wish I had a data logger to view EGTs and other factors as generally speaking, my dyno's show a negative correlation between IATs and power. I've done nearly 90 dyno's at EAS. Tom and Steve and I just scratch our heads because the limited data we get does us no good. I've given up trying to control IATs to sustain power in all conditions. From my VBox info, DA's is the only thing that matters. I've never had such a fickle car. It's pig slow in warm daytime weather and a raped ape on cold nights. But when I drop in some water/meth on a hot day it's still a slow pig even though IATs could be actually lower than on a cold night. Sorry didn't mean to thread derail.
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01-30-2014, 05:38 PM | #445 |
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No no.. it's a good discussion that also helps us talk about overall development we did.
From what you are saying is that the methanol is not working and warm weather makes the car slow. At the same time forcing lower IAT with ice is also not doing anything. Did you log ignition timing and throttle angle? We have dyno tested our cars during summer and the very bitter winters here now. The difference was small with the inter cooler, huge without. I can show you how to test something very interesting! PM me. |
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01-30-2014, 09:05 PM | #447 | |
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Not engaging with drew was not because he "showed"me anything, he and I agree and disagree on many things, that time I didnt feel the need tp push the issue since it would go nowhere fast, something i didnt do when responding to you, probably should have since you fail to accept reality once you made up your mind. Next what experience? i told him to test a way he has no experience in testing. It will show EXACTLY what im talking about from behind my keyboard, the same one that sits in my cars when dyno'ing them. How is that for keyboard warrior. You once again claiming things you know nothing about. Plenty of 3rd party tests show a 30 ish hp drop when testing non intercooled kits, this is FACT if you know where to look. Not my fault you dont Lastly take your own advice, sit back and learn, be cool brosef. Some people didnt "learn" what they know from regurgitating someone else's findings as claim them to be gospel |
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01-30-2014, 09:14 PM | #448 |
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opps, looks like Im a little late, but seems some other keyboard warriors chimed in as well.
Longboarder - I was present with the other Evolve customer that tried meth, when he had the previous kit and the Evolve, meth was killing power. I was with him at Mpact when another VT2 650 user told him the same thing, meth with no tune isnt gaining power. Since you already have an A-W IC, do what the guy in colorado was going to do and retro fit a larger pump,lines and reservoir to hold more fluid. SOme reservoirs can even be packed with ice, as well as an old drag racing thing to mount the pump to an external switch so it circulates the ice water while the car is off. |
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At my count, cross-referencing this thread www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=935368, and subtracting: a) Drew's car, as his failure is attributed to methanol failure b) H4NH b/c of his failure to supply the appropriate octane b) filinm3 b/c I don't even know where to start that leaves a total of 4 add'l s/c'ed S65s that failed that were not running meth. Even if we exclude the two "Anon" listings, that still leaves 2 verifiable failures in a) BrooklynMark http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=849394 and b) SVH http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...5&postcount=17 that weren't running meth. As for the rest of your commentary, it's not really worth commenting on, as this back and forth is just mucking up this thread; for my part, I apologize to my fellow M3post members. As I said earlier, I'm pretty comfortable with my plans at this point. You do you, and I'll worry about what's going on in my car, and with my engine, and with its future Last edited by whats77inaname; 01-30-2014 at 10:38 PM.. |
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01-31-2014, 09:40 AM | #451 |
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brilliant thread!
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01-31-2014, 10:57 AM | #453 | |
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01-31-2014, 01:34 PM | #457 |
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No problem Sal, My point has been made, by myself, and the other guy trying to argue against it
Keep up the good work, another friend is about to purchase your kit, and if tax return is what I expect, you can add me to that list as well.. |
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nice more Evolve Supercharged car in! I am so excited to get my kit. The wait has been killing me
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02-01-2014, 02:58 AM | #459 |
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We are doing two more over here in the next two weeks.
Will be nice to see more build threads with our kit. Some 8 PSi kits will be done too and that is where it's all going to get very interesting given what the 6.7 did! |
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02-01-2014, 03:20 AM | #460 |
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i want an s54 kit!!!
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Can't wait for my evolve kit as well! I'll be joining Lost this spring/summer at the roll racing events! My poor car has been hibernating in a heated garage, waiting out this awful winter.
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