6MT pedals for heel & toe

[lucid]

Originally Posted by BRDHNTR

I bought the ultimate pedals (gas pedal is the upper extension), and they are great. I can heel toe with any pair of shoes now, and it is much easier to get a big enough blip with the "normal" throttle setting.

Yeah, the decreased pedal spacing does the trick as long as you don't overdo it. It's pretty sweet now on my car.

[consolidated]

FWIW, after a few different pedals in my Cayman including the modular Rennline set (too wide, not enough space b/w the pedals), I like using their aluminum pedal but pull the rubber knobs off the brake and cover it with skateboard tape, works great. I know brake with just the left side ball of the foot and cap easily roll over to blip the gas, it's perfection.

[IND-Distribution]

I do agree that the E92 pedals can use a bit of an extension. Lucid, do you have a picture of your extension installed?

[lucid]

Originally Posted by Ilia@IND

I do agree that the E92 pedals can use a bit of an extension. Lucid, do you have a picture of your extension installed?

I might shave another 1/8" off or so. Still playing with the spacing. I'll post pics soon.

[CatchM3]

that would be nice if you did. I'm shopping for some.

[SlammedR8]

I've seen some guys with nice aluminum pedals to match the M dead pedal thats standard in our M's.
Where do you guys get those nice aluminum pedals from?

[cncmastr]

Originally Posted by lucid

You can actually use the side of your heel while keeping your foot planted on the brake rather than rolling your foot to blip the throttle since the throttle is easy to depress. I prefer rolling though.

I too roll. I roll the right side of my foot on to the gas while I am braking.

[cncmastr]

Originally Posted by slammedm3

I've seen some guys with nice aluminum pedals to match the M dead pedal thats standard in our M's.
Where do you guys get those nice aluminum pedals from?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/%2F%2...07191132r20995

http://www.quality-bmw.com/M_Pedal_MT.htm



I had this in my old ZHP

[SlammedR8]

Originally Posted by cncmastr

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/%2F%2...07191132r20995

http://www.quality-bmw.com/M_Pedal_MT.htm



I had this in my old ZHP

Those are nice!!!

[CatchM3]

Yea I like how these looks but only $25.00? Makes me question the quality of these pedals

[SlammedR8]

Originally Posted by CatchM3

Yea I like how these looks but only $25.00? Makes me question the quality of these pedals

$27 for shipping . (it MIGHHHTT cost $10 to ship them)

[hooligan55]

Originally Posted by lucid

It is taking me some time to feel comfortable doing heel & toe in my E92 M3. I was pretty comfortable with it in my E46 325. This obviously has to do with many things such as clutch engagement and drivetrain rotational intertia differences between the two cars and so on. But I am also wondering about pedals. Has the spacing between the throttle and the break pedals increased? My foot was semi-jammed in the gap the other day, and fortunately, I was not on the track in a 120 mph braking zone. Does anyone have any recommendations for aftermarket pedals that might reduce the gap a little?

Before you go start modding your pedals I would advise you practice braking a bit later (and by default harder) than you normally do now. The gas pedal is designed to be, and will be, much easier to blip under heavier braking. It's not really designed to be heel-toe blipped under light casual braking. Also it might help to be in Sport Plus accelerator setting as this will make the pedals more sensitive. On the track, you're braking so hard that instead of rolling your foot you almost have to pivot on the ball of your foot and stab the gas with your heel. If you ever drive an older car or a formula anything race car with no power assisted controls you really have to jab the gas for even a small blip.

[lucid]

Originally Posted by hooligan55

Before you go start modding your pedals I would advise you practice braking a bit later (and by default harder) than you normally do now. The gas pedal is designed to be, and will be, much easier to blip under heavier braking. It's not really designed to be heel-toe blipped under light casual braking. Also it might help to be in Sport Plus accelerator setting as this will make the pedals more sensitive. On the track, you're braking so hard that instead of rolling your foot you almost have to pivot on the ball of your foot and stab the gas with your heel. If you ever drive an older car or a formula anything race car with no power assisted controls you really have to jab the gas for even a small blip.

Thanks for the perspective. Actually, I tried the stock setup on the track and wasn't all that comfortable with the pedal spacing there either. I have trimmed my initial extension plate design down considerably (too much extension to begin with) and am now at a rather small extension distance. That was all I needed as it works great!

I see your point about power assist though. Yes, that is where the term "heel & toe" comes from as I can see the need for using both the heel and the ball of your foot in that situation. And power assist does indeed allow you to accomplish the blip with just a roll without losing your hold on the brake pedal.

It turns out SportPlus on the track is not an optimal setting for other reasons; it does take away from your ability to control the throttle input carefully coming out of turns, etc.

[!Xoible]

Originally Posted by lucid

Thanks for the perspective. Actually, I tried the stock setup on the track and wasn't all that comfortable with the pedal spacing there either. I have trimmed my initial extension plate design down considerably (too much extension to begin with) and am now at a rather small extension distance. That was all I needed as it works great!

I see your point about power assist though. Yes, that is where the term "heel & toe" comes from as I can see the need for using both the heel and the ball of your foot in that situation. And power assist does indeed allow you to accomplish the blip with just a roll without losing your hold on the brake pedal.

It turns out SportPlus on the track is not an optimal setting for other reasons; it does take away from your ability to control the throttle input carefully coming out of turns, etc.

so do u have "spec" on ur gas pedal? im looking now into ultimatepedal (look at my first post in this thread) - yah, i give up now.
out of the 3 pics u posted i like the last one, but i couldnt find it on their website (ultimatepedals.com)

[MrHarris]

Just use the side of your foot. You got to rotate your foot while it's on the brake. BMW M3 is much easier to heel toe than than the Audi RS4 (you gotta pivot even more with the audi). I find BMW's pretty easy, I would say same as a Porsche. I still believe the Honda S2000 is the easiest

[pittsy]

Originally Posted by cncmastr

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/%2F%2...07191132r20995

http://www.quality-bmw.com/M_Pedal_MT.htm



I had this in my old ZHP

I have those and I am happy with them!!

[GregW / Oregon]

Originally Posted by cncmastr

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/%2F%2...07191132r20995

They're nice, but don't really match the M3 dead pedal style. I think I'm going with all Ultimates, replacing the footrest, too. I've seen them with the M logo inset, as well, which they will do as an option.

[Rich_Jenkins]

With apologies for bringing this thread back from the dead, I searched and it seemed the best one to bump:

Ordered a frosted anti slip no inserts upper left extension M3 pedal from www.ultimatepedals.com today. $93.00 plus shipping.

I called and rep indicated it would be none-pocketed; I did not want any M3 emblems or what not.

I plan to paint it with a couple coats of canyon black satin before install, I did the same on my E46 and liked it; very subtle.

[Rich_Jenkins]

Sooooo...got the pedal a few weeks ago and finally was in town long enough to install it.

I decided to leave it unfinished, on my E46 it wore off and I had this silver/black thing going on. So I skipped the paint this time.

Must say, customer service and responsiveness of the staff at Ultimate Pedals was phenomenal.

www.ultimatepedals.com

I'm very pleased with the added left side pedal width on the top, it fits my shoes perfectly and now I can roll on the gas while braking at the same time.

I used the same finish I had last time, frosted antislip with no inserts.

[line4848]

These are terrific pedals. Clutch and brake pedals have great grip. Understated, but very functional.

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-15...nsmission.aspx

[Bubbles]

Ultimate pedals. They will engrave the pedals with ///M for a few more bucks. Top left extension for me.