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      03-25-2016, 09:55 AM   #1
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Question Rebuilt motor swap increase or decrease resale value?

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I'm thinking about getting an E92 that needed a rebuilt motor swap due to engine damage on the original motor. Car has 45k miles on it, warranty has expired but motor was swapped before warranty expired at a legit dealer with paperwork. "New" motor has 5k miles on it.

Do you think the newer motor will help increase the resale price a few years from now in case I have to sell the vehicle? Price is $43k for 2012. Is that price fair with rebuilt motor?

Did a search but cams up dry. Happy to read a thread if it has been covered already.

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      03-25-2016, 10:05 AM   #2
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I think it would hurt resale value. Unless it was a brand new or rebuilt motor that is fully documented with warranty. When it says 5k miles that means used motor. That sounds like puffing. I fell for that once. Turns out the motor they put in my truck was just a junkyard special. "The original owner was an old lady too."
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      03-25-2016, 10:22 AM   #3
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Hi,

I'm thinking about getting an E92 that needed a rebuilt motor swap due to engine damage on the original motor. Car has 45k miles on it, warranty has expired but motor was swapped before warranty expired at a legit dealer with paperwork. "New" motor has 5k miles on it.

Do you think the newer motor will help increase the resale price a few years from now in case I have to sell the vehicle? Price is $43k for 2012. Is that price fair with rebuilt motor?

Did a search but cams up dry. Happy to read a thread if it has been covered already.

Thanks!
Honestly, no... I would think that most M3 buyers prefer a car that is all original as a first choice... I don't think that it will hurt the price though... If it was a new factory engine crated and shipped and installed by a BMW dealer with a warranty still in place it would certainly increase the value...

If your trying to buyl the car- a price at market value in the "clean" or "above average" range for a 45k mile M3 is fair...

IMO- $43k is too high... $36-37K is fair... talk them down...
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      03-25-2016, 11:26 AM   #4
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Dealer required oil change at 1,100 miles - maybe that means it's new? Paperwork says "replaced with remanufactured engine assembly" and the dealer charge was > $20k for parts alone, and engine has 1 yr warranty left. Seller says engine shipped from Germany. The radiator and coolant were replaced as well while they were at it. Car has comp, premium and cold weather packages.
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      03-25-2016, 12:31 PM   #5
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Seen a few for sale on ebay and they have never sold so I'm gonna say it hurts more than helps. But for $43k you can find a low mileage zcp so I wouldn't even consider this car.
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      03-25-2016, 01:05 PM   #6
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Dealer required oil change at 1,100 miles - maybe that means it's new? Paperwork says "replaced with remanufactured engine assembly" and the dealer charge was > $20k for parts alone, and engine has 1 yr warranty left. Seller says engine shipped from Germany. The radiator and coolant were replaced as well while they were at it. Car has comp, premium and cold weather packages.
Nice! That is great news! It means that the engine was replaced with a new engine directly from BMW... My engine was replaced last summer due to rod bearing failure under extended warranty with the factory rebuilt one... I have about the same amount of miles on my new engine as well...

Having said that, I think $38-40k is where the price needs to be- considering the engine is still under warranty for another year... $43k is still too high...
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the new motor hurt the value of the car. to a few it may make the car more attractive but to most it will be a deal breaker.
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the new motor hurt the value of the car. to a few it may make the car more attractive but to most it will be a deal breaker.
How would 5k miles engine from BMW bring down the value in a 45k mile car mate..?
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How would 5k miles engine from BMW bring down the value in a 45k mile car mate..?
its not the original motor. most people will not buy a car that has had the motor replaced.

To me, I like the idea of having a fresh motor but I understand to most it is a huge turnoff. Non original panels, like bumpers, even if painted by a bmw collision center, decrease the value of the car to many.
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OTOH if it was swapped with a motor that has been stroked to a larger displacement that increases value 100x imho (well maybe not 100x... but it still makes it more desirable)
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its not the original motor. most people will not buy a car that has had the motor replaced.

To me, I like the idea of having a fresh motor but I understand to most it is a huge turnoff. Non original panels, like bumpers, even if painted by a bmw collision center, decrease the value of the car to many.
I would pay a little extra if I knew it was a factory motor with a 2 year warranty... After all, the engine is the most expensive cost mechanically and our cars are well known for rod bearing failures...

Depends on the buyer...
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Hehe. No displacement change. But at least compression likely close to stock. :-)
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I would gladly accept a dealer swapped rebuilt motor with "0" miles
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Decrease. My first thought would be "was the car ragged on and thus required a a new engine" or "if that was beaten on, what else is about to break"

this will also apply in the trade in/dealer world.
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Great. Thanks for all the answers. Thread may be closed.
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Great. Thanks for all the answers. Thread may be closed.
Oh no, you won't close a good thread like that bro!
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