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      02-25-2014, 07:07 PM   #177
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The V1 can pick up radar over a mile out. As long as there are other cars on the road, it is hugely useful. Traveling alone, useless. Poor range detectors are, indeed, "you just got a ticket" devices. That said, it's certainly not cop proofing-- it's additional information to use in your judgement and common sense based decisions.

Laser jammer are hardly illegal in "most" states. More like 20% of states. And most of the states it's illegal in don't have it as a jailable offense. And I've never heard of a single person being taken to jail for it where it is.

An interactive Map below the pic of it I've attached here.



At the link below you can Click on each state to see detailed information re: which frequencies\tactics\guns are used in each county etc...

http://www.radardetectorforum.org/wi...aphical_Survey
Nice interactive map.

So according to this , there are some areas in Socal where the cops also use K band? I thought it was always just Ka, Pop (which is a quick Ka), and laser?

I had set both my V1 in the M3 and Escort 8500 in my wife's CC to only detect Ka, Pop, and laser as they both false K alot and I have never seen a LEO using K... should I switch the settings back on?

Other than that... combination of a good radar detector (in my case Valentine V1 or Escort 8500) + Waze + good set of eyes (keep scanning up ahead for brake lights and parked vehicles) has been very effective
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      02-25-2014, 07:14 PM   #178
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      02-25-2014, 09:56 PM   #179
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wanted to update on my thoughts of Escort Live vs Waze after using the paid subscription for Escort Live for several days.

First the good
1) "Police Spotted" on both Waze and Escort Live appeared on both apps at about the same time since they share data bases... didn't seem to be much time lag between the two
2) Escort Live actually also shows Ka/ Laser/ Lidar alerts which are automatically reported by other Escort Live users around you when their actual Escort detector picks up a Ka band... this is great because if there is a car several miles ahead of you with and Escort detector and Escort Live... you will pick up their alert long before you get to the target... and it shows you where it is on the map. Waze does not receive the Ka/ Laser information from Escort Live either which is unfortunate because there are alot of reasons why Waze is still better
3) I run Escort Live in the background of my iPhone 5 with Waze in the foreground and it will still alert me with a pop up
4) Running Escort Live or Waze I am spotting targets that the V1 is not picking up... and how can it when it is essentially using the social commuting network for information


The Bad... or why Waze is still better
1) Waze has navigation built in which is great because it will show you what potential hazards lie ahead, ie police, road debri (I stayed more alert which helped me avoid ruining the front end), traffic
2) it is still getting the spotted alerts from Escort Live, however I wish Escort Live can also share Ka/ Lidar/ Laser information with Waze via a subscription service
3) Waze has a much better graphical interface that is much better at showing where the Police might be hiding, whereas on Escort Live it is just a blip on the screen... both are much better than just relying on the V1's arrows however
4) Escort Live will leave an alert for as much as 90 minutes which leads to lots of false reports... I've readjusted it to 30 minutes in the settings, but it still gives me old reports
5) Since there is information from Escort Live that is still very useable... I find myself toggling between the two apps constantly depending on what Escort Live is telling me

In the end, I like Escort Live, it has plenty of good information and I will likely get a full year subscription (which is included when you get a smart cord)... will likely even get an Escort radar detector with a hardwired Smart Cord for my wife's car since she is likely better with less false positive hits

But if there was a way to seamlessly combine information from Waze, Escort Live, and my V1... that would make for a really nice setup... Currently with these 3 options used together... I haven't missed any police siting and they have all been confirmed... it's just kinda bonky toggling between 3 different options
Please let us know when you're driving because I don't want to be anywhere near you with all the stuff you've got going on while you drive!!

Thanks for the compare and contrast between the three. It's good info.
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      02-26-2014, 10:34 AM   #181
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Passport 9500 ftw! I love the fact that it has GPS and it screens out "false positives"--grocery store and convenience store doors, etc. Gave my wife my old 8500, so now she can deal with all the constant beeps coming from it.

If you hear something coming from the 9500, and especially after it has "learned" all the false hits on your commute, you BETTER pay attention to it. If i constantly hear alerts, i slowly begin to ignore them. Not good, and from the way it sounds, the V1 hits on EVERYthing! I would rip one of those things outta the socket and toss it out the window!
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      02-26-2014, 02:47 PM   #183
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The V1 can pick up radar over a mile out. As long as there are other cars on the road, it is hugely useful. Traveling alone, useless. Poor range detectors are, indeed, "you just got a ticket" devices. That said, it's certainly not cop proofing-- it's additional information to use in your judgement and common sense based decisions.

Laser jammer are hardly illegal in "most" states. More like 20% of states. And most of the states it's illegal in don't have it as a jailable offense. And I've never heard of a single person being taken to jail for it where it is.
I disagree, the V1 is hugely over hyped. The truth is, V1 are a "feel good" toy that is highly successful at one thing : giving owners the false impressions that it "saved them" repeatedly. The whole arrow, big leds and beeping features only makes it more deceptive for suckers who own it. The V1 is just a well executed marketing ploy. Truth is , cops are trained at positioning themselves, know the geography of their local road and share information in their juridictions. The only situation where a V1 could be useful is in a straight relatively flat highway with traffic. That represents only 15% of ticket cases.
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      02-26-2014, 02:48 PM   #184
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So a laser jammer is the best?
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      02-26-2014, 02:58 PM   #185
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So a laser jammer is the best?
Oh yeah, jamming system combined with a good detector is the best you can do.
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I disagree, the V1 is hugely over hyped. The truth is, V1 are a "feel good" toy that is highly successful at one thing : giving owners the false impressions that it "saved them" repeatedly. The whole arrow, big leds and beeping features only makes it more deceptive for suckers who own it. The V1 is just a well executed marketing ploy. Truth is , cops are trained at positioning themselves, know the geography of their local road and share information in their juridictions. The only situation where a V1 could be useful is in a straight relatively flat highway with traffic. That represents only 15% of ticket cases.
You must be a police officer. If you don't like radar detectors that is fine. That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. But to state that "they don't work/people are suckers because you don't like them is comical. I have over 25 yrs experience using the V1 as a TOOL. and it is very effective. You talk about what officers do and such. Let me tell you this, Good radar detectors work, that is why Virginia has them outlawed. You don't make laws to Outlaw a device that Does NOT work. Please don't be one of those people who says "that doesn't work" because you don't like it, or are too cheap to buy one.

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Passport 9500 ftw! I love the fact that it has GPS and it screens out "false positives"--grocery store and convenience store doors, etc. Gave my wife my old 8500, so now she can deal with all the constant beeps coming from it.

If you hear something coming from the 9500, and especially after it has "learned" all the false hits on your commute, you BETTER pay attention to it. If i constantly hear alerts, i slowly begin to ignore them. Not good, and from the way it sounds, the V1 hits on EVERYthing! I would rip one of those things outta the socket and toss it out the window!
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      02-26-2014, 04:55 PM   #188
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This was an old thread, eh?

Never tried a V1.

I have had good success with Escort products. I run the 9500ix (window mount) in my wife's car and a Bel STiR Plus with Laser Interceptor jammers in my car and wouldn't trade for any other product as I feel I am notified in plenty of time, all the time, and the question of "where is that radar coming from" has never been as important to me as the fact that I am picking up the signal - which is my clue to slow down. Rarely get false signals, the GPS lets me mark known locations FHP likes to hide on the turnpike and I always get notification in plenty of time.
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The only situation where a V1 could be useful is in a straight relatively flat highway with traffic. That represents only 15% of ticket cases.
In Houston that represents 100% of ticket cases... which is probably why my old Passport works great for speed traps.
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      02-27-2014, 11:20 AM   #190
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      02-27-2014, 01:16 PM   #191
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The were both up north, not in city.Haven't had a problem yet here & planning to avoid at all cost now. Damn, never knew fdr had a 40 limit. Flow of traffic always seems 60ish.
Bdb is lowering it to 25 in the city proper. Ring roads staying at 40. Fucking gross.
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The only situation where a V1 could be useful is in a straight relatively flat highway with traffic. That represents only 15% of ticket cases.
Or when there's a speed trap and multiple LEOs are targeting traffic and the bogey counter let's you know about it before you start picking up speed after passing the guy already pulled over (happened to me).

Or when there's undulating hills in the same scenario (happened to me).

Only thing I *don't* like about it? Radar from the new Audi's trip it.
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Or when there's a speed trap and multiple LEOs are targeting traffic and the bogey counter let's you know about it before you start picking up speed after passing the guy already pulled over (happened to me).

Or when there's undulating hills in the same scenario (happened to me).

Only thing I *don't* like about it? Radar from the new Audi's trip it.
If you turn off POP, you won't pick up the Audis. Obviously you won't pick up POP using cops, either, but, happily for me, cops in PA don't use POP.
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You must be a police officer. If you don't like radar detectors that is fine. That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. But to state that "they don't work/people are suckers because you don't like them is comical. I have over 25 yrs experience using the V1 as a TOOL. and it is very effective. You talk about what officers do and such. Let me tell you this, Good radar detectors work, that is why Virginia has them outlawed. You don't make laws to Outlaw a device that Does NOT work. Please don't be one of those people who says "that doesn't work" because you don't like it, or are too cheap to buy one.
you are putting different words in my mouth so your whole paragraph is void. If you like to indulge in arguing with a position you invented, to make your case easier then keep your narcissistic monologue to yourself.
i.e. i never said they don't work, you're trying to shoot a target that exist only in your head.
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you are putting different words in my mouth so your whole paragraph is void. If you like to indulge in arguing with a position you invented, to make your case easier then keep your narcissistic monologue to yourself.
i.e. i never said they don't work, you're trying to shoot a target that exist only in your head.

makes it more deceptive for suckers who own it. <<< Was that not you who wrote that? Now saying that a person is a "sucker" for buying a product and saying >>>. The truth is, V1 are a "feel good" toy that is highly successful at one thing : giving owners the false impressions that it "saved them" repeatedly. The whole arrow, big leds and beeping features only makes it more deceptive for suckers who own it. The V1 is just a well executed marketing ploy."



Now what does that quote mean? If you call people "suckers' and they have fallen for a "well executed marketing ploy" You are implying they don't work. No one is a narcissist but you my friend with your authoritative claims of people being suckers and falling victim to marketing ploys.

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So I have both a V1 and the relatively new Passport Max. Overall, the Passport is a far more advanced tool. Biggest issue with the V1 was the CONSTANT falsing that made it virtually useless in many situations. The Passport gives me great info and really, the V1 arrows only have one benefit...it lets you know if something is at the rear so you can ignore it. Luckily, you can soon learn the nuances of the alerts the Passport is giving you and the arrows become not as great as you once thought.

On a different but nonetheless related note, I though the V1 arrows were going off patent a while back and thought that other companies might have started incorporating them.

I am still waiting for a detection system that picks up a radar signal, then based on doppler shift changes as you approach the source, will coordinate with your GPS and display the source location on your Nav screen.
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