M3 GTS info! (lightweight performance edition M3) - Page 36

Trier Germany · 11-12-2009, 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by savage.ulm1

I agree and it is simple to agree with you

The car is still not delivered to anyone so this has to be a BMW test driver time. But like Porsche and Nissan or others. So interesting anyway. One day we will know the true also about Ring time...

Lets all wait till some independant testers, get ahold of this car and see what times this car can produce?

footie · 11-12-2009, 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trier Germany

Lets all wait till some independant testers, get ahold of this car and see what times this car can produce?

That was my point on the other thread, though the car is clearly going to be great the weight reduction isn't as good as first thought, in fact nowhere near as good as I have heard Audi are dropping the S5 Lightweight so with that in mind I am a little be skeptical as to whether it will achieve the suggested lap time, what with so many braking points and corners involved.

Singletrack · 11-12-2009, 01:26 PM

I have to believe that those HP figures are very conservative, don't you think? It seems like they would get more than 25-30HP out of a new exhaust, .4 L more displacement, tuning, etc.

kal112 · 11-12-2009, 04:47 PM

what the exhaust system on the GTS, it's not akrapovic !! is it custom made or what i didn't understand what was written after not akrapovic !

Singletrack · 11-12-2009, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kal112

what the exhaust system on the GTS, it's not akrapovic !! is it custom made or what i didn't understand what was written after not akrapovic !

Per the first page, it is made by "ARVIN MERITOR ".

http://www.arvinmeritor.com/home/default.asp

SUB-ZERO · 11-12-2009, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Singletrack

I have to believe that those HP figures are very conservative, don't you think? It seems like they would get more than 25-30HP out of a new exhaust, .4 L more displacement, tuning, etc.

+1

Fanta · 11-12-2009, 07:17 PM

I read some articles about "Power steering overheating" within M3 forum.
Is there any improvement in M3 GTS?

iveman89 · 11-12-2009, 08:55 PM

7:40 aint bad cant wait to see what others get

ChinoOrtega · 11-12-2009, 09:07 PM

that is an impressive time, considering 30hp + 4.4l, that's the diffrence between our m3 and the e46, it's a huge gap

smookey · 11-13-2009, 02:28 AM

Sure, but the huge difference, is that between the E92 and the E46, there's 150kg more for the E92, whereas between E92 and GTS, there's appriximatly the same weight difference, but in GTS favor!

That's why a "big" time on the Ring is possible.
I really believe, knowing this track and several car which are under 7.50 that it can do it.

Let's see WR with the beast....

The only thing i regret, is that there's no Michelin PS CUP GTS sizes available, and that make the difference. The PS CUp i such a great tyre on a dry road. Track my GT3 with it and you can't imagine how it grips when it's about 90/100°c!!

I which the pirelli would be so grippy.....

Trier Germany · 11-13-2009, 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smookey

Sure, but the huge difference, is that between the E92 and the E46, there's 150kg more for the E92, whereas between E92 and GTS, there's appriximatly the same weight difference, but in GTS favor!

That's why a "big" time on the Ring is possible.
I really believe, knowing this track and several car which are under 7.50 that it can do it.

Let's see WR with the beast....

The only thing i regret, is that there's no Michelin PS CUP GTS sizes available, and that make the difference. The PS CUp i such a great tyre on a dry road. Track my GT3 with it and you can't imagine how it grips when it's about 90/100°c!!

I which the pirelli would be so grippy.....

The pirelli corsas are of equal grip. But you will never find these kind of temps at the Nurburgring.

Gooey · 11-13-2009, 04:36 AM

GIANT ERECTION

Voltigeur · 11-13-2009, 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PencilGeek

Is BMW planning to bring the GTS to the US?

Of course not...right?

Right. But it's a mistake.

BMW AG has staked out this new world (sic) of ///M SAVs --- and that's OK. I'm in the pragmatists' camp: sell what has the maximum margin (P-car makes more EBIT margin from a Cayenne Turbo than a 911 T) if it works to sustain the marque.

But, and this is the error: don't spurn the proselytizers, ie. the dedicated ///M Div fans. And by this I mean: give us relatively affordable, focused, sports GTs.

-- V

Great White · 11-13-2009, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by savage.ulm1

7.40

and since all was told to me later as you know
was confirmed by facts, I would beleive also to this info...

Squack box has it the the lap time is 7:37 mins, this however is not being confirmed.. pity

footie · 11-13-2009, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great White

Squack box has it the the lap time is 7:37 mins, this however is not being confirmed.. pity

Probably BMW won't confirm this time, preferring to let Sportauto supply a time instead.

ChinoOrtega · 11-13-2009, 03:39 PM

THIS SHOULD BE THE NEXT M3!!!!!!!!!!! that's what we want, high revving NA V8 on a diet, not some turbo, so long for the M philosophy,

swamp2 · 01-10-2010, 10:50 PM

On 11/7/09 I wrote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by swamp2

I have some performance estimates courtesy of CarTest (and regression analysis). I am assuming hp to actually be 455 (very well might be 460) and assuming torque of 325 ft lb. I also assumed the Cd (drag coef.) would increase from .31 to .34. Based on those figures I'm finding:

0-60 mph: 3.8s
0-100 mph: 8.4s
0-150 mph: 20s
1/4 mi: 11.9s 120 mph
Top speed: 185 mph (virtually unchanged compared to existing car)
N'Ring: 7:36 - 7:42 (will strongly depend on tires, driver, conditions, etc.)

Today I read in the new Roundel (Jan., p. 30) that, "test engineers have coaxed the GTS around the legendary Nurburgring Nordschleife in seven minutes, 40 seconds - ten seconds quicker than the E46 CSL".

I'm pleased with my predictions. Withing range and even close to the middle of my range.

FruitCake · 07-21-2010, 11:26 PM

on the 1st page it says the wheels are made by BBS???
I thought it was NOT made by BBS

marwan · 07-21-2010, 11:36 PM

Does the ZCP M3 use the exact same wheels as the GTS? I hear people saying that the ZCP uses cast, while the GTS are forged. Is this true?

aajami · 07-22-2010, 01:45 AM

The ZCP wheels and GTS wheels are exactly the same, except for the finish. They're both flow-form cast. And yes, I do believe they are made by BBS, but I'm not certain.

11-12-2009, 01:26 PM	#773
Singletrack 4th down; 4th quarter? Renegade. Drives: 09 SSII E92 M3; 12 AW X5d Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 3,800 iTrader: (3)	I have to believe that those HP figures are very conservative, don't you think? It seems like they would get more than 25-30HP out of a new exhaust, .4 L more displacement, tuning, etc. __________________ Singletrack's M3 iND/Singletrack's X5d

11-12-2009, 09:07 PM	#779
ChinoOrtega Captain Drives: 991 C2S Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Guatemala Posts: 603 iTrader: (0)	that is an impressive time, considering 30hp + 4.4l, that's the diffrence between our m3 and the e46, it's a huge gap __________________

11-13-2009, 03:39 PM	#786
ChinoOrtega Captain Drives: 991 C2S Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Guatemala Posts: 603 iTrader: (0)	THIS SHOULD BE THE NEXT M3!!!!!!!!!!! that's what we want, high revving NA V8 on a diet, not some turbo, so long for the M philosophy, __________________

07-22-2010, 01:45 AM	#790
aajami Brigadier General Drives: Space Gray '09 E92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Manhattan Beach, CA Posts: 3,329 iTrader: (4)	The ZCP wheels and GTS wheels are exactly the same, except for the finish. They're both flow-form cast. And yes, I do believe they are made by BBS, but I'm not certain. __________________ Current: '09 E92 M3 \| Space Gray, Black Novillo, Carbon Leather \| ZTP 2MK ZPP 2MT 6FL \| link 1 / link 2 Mods: M Performance exhaust \| ZCP suspension retrofit \| Euro airbox \| LCI Euro taillights \| Style 359M wheels \| CRT lip \| BMW Performance CF Mk. II spoiler \| BMW Performance CF mirror caps \| BMW Performance front grilles / side gills / intake louvers / emblem \| Factory alarm retrofit \| Space Gray bumper plugs Gone: '01 "AP2" Honda S2000, '97 Ford Probe GT

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Email this Page	Search this Thread: Advanced Search

11-12-2009, 04:47 PM	#774
kal112 Private Drives: M3 coup Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: kuwait Posts: 77 iTrader: (1)	what the exhaust system on the GTS, it's not akrapovic !! is it custom made or what i didn't understand what was written after not akrapovic !

11-12-2009, 07:17 PM	#777
Fanta C Drives: M3, Carrera & C320 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Ottawa Posts: 501 iTrader: (1)	I read some articles about "Power steering overheating" within M3 forum. Is there any improvement in M3 GTS?

11-12-2009, 08:55 PM	#778
iveman89 First Lieutenant Drives: 2008 M3 E93 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: watsonville, CA Posts: 389 iTrader: (0)	7:40 aint bad cant wait to see what others get

11-13-2009, 02:28 AM	#780
smookey Private First Class Drives: M3 E92 DKG SG Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: france Posts: 113 iTrader: (0)	Sure, but the huge difference, is that between the E92 and the E46, there's 150kg more for the E92, whereas between E92 and GTS, there's appriximatly the same weight difference, but in GTS favor! That's why a "big" time on the Ring is possible. I really believe, knowing this track and several car which are under 7.50 that it can do it. Let's see WR with the beast.... The only thing i regret, is that there's no Michelin PS CUP GTS sizes available, and that make the difference. The PS CUp i such a great tyre on a dry road. Track my GT3 with it and you can't imagine how it grips when it's about 90/100°c!! I which the pirelli would be so grippy.....

11-13-2009, 04:36 AM	#782
Gooey Banned Drives: BMW Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: USA Posts: 25 iTrader: (0)	GIANT ERECTION

07-21-2010, 11:26 PM	#788
FruitCake Banned Drives: '10 E92 M3 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,687 iTrader: (19)	on the 1st page it says the wheels are made by BBS??? I thought it was NOT made by BBS

07-21-2010, 11:36 PM	#789
marwan Lieutenant Drives: 2011 ZCP E92 M3 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: UAE Posts: 405 iTrader: (0)	Does the ZCP M3 use the exact same wheels as the GTS? I hear people saying that the ZCP uses cast, while the GTS are forged. Is this true?