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      12-28-2010, 06:44 PM   #1
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Which of these is closest to fox red?

I want to order some leather dye (just for minor detailing) and leathermagic does not have fox red in their chart, so I was wonderign which of the colors is close. Most of the ones on the current chart are older colors.
It's either cardinal or carmine.

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http://www.leathermagic.com/Pages/BMWcolrchart.htm
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Carmine IMO
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      12-28-2010, 07:41 PM   #3
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def make sure you look at samples in person your monitor could not be calibrated correctly and you could be way off! i seen this happen a lot. just my 2 cents.
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      12-28-2010, 08:03 PM   #4
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I want to order some leather dye (just for minor detailing) and leathermagic does not have fox red in their chart, so I was wonderign which of the colors is close. Most of the ones on the current chart are older colors.
It's either cardinal or carmine.

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http://www.leathermagic.com/Pages/BMWcolrchart.htm
Read the FAQ questions #4, 5, 6.
http://www.leathermagic.com/Pages/FAQ.HTM#14

If they can match Fox Red there are several of us that would like to try their kit.
Please let us know how it works out.

Last edited by kenwelch; 12-28-2010 at 08:04 PM.. Reason: wording of FAQ sections
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None look very close to me? I would see if they have a custom color or can match.
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BMW2404 Cardinal

Fox Red is alot more brown/orange than people may realize.
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Thanks for the responses. I contact them and they do not have fox red, but they offered to match the color if I send a piece of leather.... but as far as I know, there no place from where to get that without ruining the car.

Any ideas? Seems that a lot of people is interested.
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Go to...

http://www.liquidleather.com/

I recently got one of their Scuff Master kits in matched Fox Red and I'm pretty happy with it.
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http://www.liquidleather.com/

I recently got one of their Scuff Master kits in matched Fox Red and I'm pretty happy with it.
Can you post a before/after pic? or just an after pic? I'm interested in this kit.
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http://www.liquidleather.com/

I recently got one of their Scuff Master kits in matched Fox Red and I'm pretty happy with it.
Did you do it yourself or you take into a shop? If yes to the former, how hard was it?
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Why do you need dye for detailing?
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http://www.liquidleather.com/

I recently got one of their Scuff Master kits in matched Fox Red and I'm pretty happy with it.
Great Tip. Can you tell us more about it?
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      01-02-2011, 01:53 PM   #16
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This thread is useless WITHOUT PICS
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      01-03-2011, 09:00 AM   #17
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Can you post a before/after pic? or just an after pic? I'm interested in this kit.
Sorry, no before pic but the scuff near the stitching of the bolster was an eyesore. No after pic until I get back from travel end of the week.

It looks way, way better. Well worth it and probably as good as an shop might have done. If you didn't know it was there you likely would not notice now whereas before you couldn't have missed it. Sure, if you look and under some lighting conditions, you can see the repair but I'm pretty picky and I'd have to say it came out pretty good.
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Did you do it yourself or you take into a shop? If yes to the former, how hard was it?
Did it myself. I had a scuff about 1/2" long next to the stitching. Dealer supplied unfortunately.

Anyway I followed their instructions, applying a small amount "neat" (full strength) using a paint touch up applicator. Looked okay but I was still not satisfied, mostly with respect to blending it. Remember it isn't going to be a magically invisible repair and how good it looks does depend on how much effort you make to do the best job possible. So I followed up with a 50-50 mix of dye and water and this time I dabbed it on use a Dupont Sontara cloth, although any cotton cloth would probably work. Again less is more. Multiple applications are okay.

The next time I have to do this I will do the 50-50 mix and dab method to start. It might take more applications but I think overall the result might be even better and the blending will be easier.

The result isn't perfection but it is pretty good, and rocks compared to the original scuff. If you didn't know to look for it you might not ever notice. The color match is very good but it is a repair and if you light up the seat with a flashlight for example you will be able to see it.
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This thread is useless WITHOUT PICS
Ack.

Will try to post an after pic. No before pic available.

Honestly at the time I just wanted some improvement over an eyesore. To preserve my sanity, my relationship with my wife, and my relationship with the dealer. Yeah, it bothered me way out of proportion. I have OCD. I got a pretty good result but it didn't occur to me to document the before and after or the process as if it were a DIY. I'll say one thing: the result is good enough that I feel better about getting Fox Red again if I get another M3, otherwise it was going to be back to black or speed cloth.
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cardinal... i agree with others that you have to see it in person
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PICs, as requested.

Sorry, no "before" pic but it was an eyesore. Certainly to me. The Fox Red color had been worn off on about a 1/2" (vertically) portion of the bolster between the rows of stitching and on both sides of the gap. It looked dark grey.

Yes, the lighting isn't great in these pictures and sure, if you shine a bright light on the repair it is visible, but as you can see in the general scheme of things the Gliptone/LIquid Leather Fox Red Scuff Master Kit can yield a 95% success.

General area...

http://homepage.mac.com/sohearn/M3SeatImages/Seat1.jpg

Closer...

http://homepage.mac.com/sohearn/M3SeatImages/Seat2.jpg

Pointing the spot out with my finger...

http://homepage.mac.com/sohearn/M3SeatImages/Seat3.jpg

I'm happy with it.
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