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      02-13-2013, 02:37 PM   #23
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wouldn't think twice about killing that SOB! Justice system is fuking stupid.




sorry for the language but cases like these make me rage.
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      02-13-2013, 03:05 PM   #24
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It's amazing that you can justifiably kill a person while they're in the mids of a sexual assault but not during a double homicide?
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It's amazing that you can justifiably kill a person while they're in the mids of a sexual assault but not during a double homicide?
I guess it's a difference if you kill somebody during a crime - so you, at least partially prevented a crime - Or you kill somebody AFTER the crime - so you did not prevent any crime.

But like stated before, I think this is bullshit. Give the man a medal and a paycheck for doing the right thing.
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This actually happened in the 80's in Houston... different circumstances though... 11 year old boy was kidnapped and taken to NOLA... sexually abused etc... found the guy and the boy returned the boy home to parents where dad found out what the guy did to said boy and dad waited at airport for said kidnapper being escorted by officers and shot him in the head on live TV as news cameras rolled. He got convicted of first degree murder and a suspended sentence 5 years probation... Hopefully this is what he gets.

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      02-14-2013, 07:04 AM   #27
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Here's the video (nothing graphic - shooting was obscured)
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Here's the video (nothing graphic - shooting was obscured)
wow !!!!!

strong post man. love it.

dad knew what he was doing and i'm sure he knew the penalties, and he did it anyways.

freaking hero !!!
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Here's the video (nothing graphic - shooting was obscured)
cool video, Dad looked like a trained killer.
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I would do worse. I would tortue him and than shoot him in the dick and hope he survived
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Out of curiosity, what would you guys think of the father revenge killing over his sons if the other driver was not drunk and it was just a freak accident? I assume the father would still be emotionally distraught after the incident, but I am curious if he would still kill the other driver over it due to a temporary bout of grief stricken insanity.
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honestly i dont know how I would live my life knowing the person who killed a family member I loved, was still walking this earth happy and free. I'd probably do the same thing. HOWEVER if the driver was not drunk.... I dont know what id do.
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Out of curiosity, what would you guys think of the father revenge killing over his sons if the other driver was not drunk and it was just a freak accident? I assume the father would still be emotionally distraught after the incident, but I am curious if he would still kill the other driver over it due to a temporary bout of grief stricken insanity.
i think the father would have shot and killed the kid if he was drunk, sober, texting while driving, falling asleep or getting head.

end result is that his two children were killed by this guy piloting his truck.....
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Tragic story. A similar event happened a few months ago here and as far as I know the guy is still awaiting trial. He was sober and reportedly "not paying attention", and sober. Killed 2 kids also, and probably will not serve much time. How has the court system failed so poorly? Talk about a need for reform...
Sorry to hear of this tremendous loss, and the father gets a in my book.
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Prosecutor should be ashamed of him/herself. In Texas of all places.
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Prosecutor should be ashamed of him/herself. In Texas of all places.
why ??

i think everyone fully understands that what the father did was far from justifiable.

we are not talking about "justified actions" - i am simply asking around if people agreed or disagreed what the father did based on pure passion alone.

so yeah, he wasn't justified for any reason whatsoever, but it looks like more than 75% of people/fathers would have done the same in that sitaution.....
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This actually happened in the 80's in Houston... different circumstances though... 11 year old boy was kidnapped and taken to NOLA... sexually abused etc... found the guy and the boy returned the boy home to parents where dad found out what the guy did to said boy and dad waited at airport for said kidnapper being escorted by officers and shot him in the head on live TV as news cameras rolled. He got convicted of first degree murder and a suspended sentence 5 years probation... Hopefully this is what he gets.

Texas is the greatest state in the Union...
I remember seeing that story a long time ago. Guy was the kids karate instructor IIRC. Guy abducted kid, kid sexually assualted, both found, guy arrested. Father waited in ambush in the airport as perp was being extradited. Pulled out a snubby and blasted a-hole in the right temple point blank. Father was given a slap on the wrist. Seems like justice. Father will have to explain to maker why he did what he did.
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      02-17-2013, 11:20 AM   #38
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Prosecutor should be ashamed of him/herself. In Texas of all places.
I agree. The prosecutor should have given him a small cash reward, and perhaps a civil commendation. He/she should be ashamed.
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      02-17-2013, 01:04 PM   #39
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didnt read most of the responses but imho the drunk driver got off light with a gunshot wound to the head. he definitely should have died before eating another meal but he should have been left to bleed out and understand the consequences of his actions.

father should walk a free man and if he sends any time in jail he should be treated like a king.

two young boys like that are irreplaceable, not just for the family but for the whole community.
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why ??

i think everyone fully understands that what the father did was far from justifiable.

we are not talking about "justified actions" - i am simply asking around if people agreed or disagreed what the father did based on pure passion alone.

so yeah, he wasn't justified for any reason whatsoever, but it looks like more than 75% of people/fathers would have done the same in that sitaution.....
I don't know if what he did was justifiable but it was certainly understandable. No way the prosecutor needs to bring the hammer down on this poor man with a murder charge.
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I don't know if what he did was justifiable but it was certainly understandable. No way the prosecutor needs to bring the hammer down on this poor man with a murder charge.
there is a good possibility that they will take carry Murder into the court room, but it's only going to make it that much harder to get a conviction.

i'm curious to see how it will all shake out in the end - hopefully dad goes to jail for 5 years and gets probation.

he'll be out in 3 years.....in this small Texas town, they will throw him a hero's welcome.....
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ok, so fast forward a whole year and a half.....

trial starts today on the father who shot and killed a drunk driver who had just fatally killed his two sons by smashing his vehicle into them....

http://www.click2houston.com/news/tr...-sons/27609248

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On a dark December night last year near Alvin, the Barajas family truck ran out of diesel just a few hundred yards from home.
12-year old David and 10-year old Kaleb were helping their Dad push the pickup when a speeding Chevy Malibu struck with life-ending force.

"All of a sudden the father goes flying through the air. There's an explosion. When he gets up off the ground he hears one of his boys yelling for his Mommy. This child's legs were severed. He couldn't find the other boy. He was looking around in a panic to find the other boy. The other boy was probably 50 feet away in the ditch. He was not dead at that time, but was definitely not conscious and then everything kind of went black after that for Mr. Barajas," said Cammack.



I've been waiting on this for a while, seeing as my older brother and I grew up and know many of the Barajas family...

like I mentioned in the very first post, the Barajas family tree is impressive to the say the least....

Grandma and Grandpa had 14 children and each of those children had 2 or 3 kids minimum, so myself and my other two brothers have grown up knowing the Barajas children, just as many people have in this small town...

even my parents know the uncles and aunts of the Barajas family...
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Out of curiosity, what would you guys think of the father revenge killing over his sons if the other driver was not drunk and it was just a freak accident? I assume the father would still be emotionally distraught after the incident, but I am curious if he would still kill the other driver over it due to a temporary bout of grief stricken insanity.
I was wondering that too. Since the driver was drunk, and VERY much so based on his alcohol content, then in this case, the dad did society a favor. State should reimburse him the cost of the rounds he used up, instead of charging him. But, we know that after the fact, because of the evidence of the blood alcohol level.

However, what if it was some freak mechanical failure, and not the driver's fault at all (ie: he wasnt drunk, nor texting, nor getting head, etc etc).

What if, after the investigation, they found the driver had nothing in his system? What if it turned out to be suspension or brake failure, some $2 bolt fails, car doesnt respond to driver inputs, and in a heartbeat you are off the road and plowing down people on the side. That could happen to any one of us here.

Tough call, the fathers emotional reactions in the moment after seeing his kids would be understandable, but that would just make a bad situation worse if the driver turned out to be innocent.

Maybe the driver was very obviously drunk, reeked of booze, so the father had no doubt what happened, and didn't need to wait for a blood test, but that certainly isnt clear from any of the news postings. On the contrary, it says "everything went black after that for Mr. Barajas", so I'd bet the father was so consumed with rage he didnt spend a single second to determine if the driver was drunk, or sober.

I dunno, just not sure we should always condone the "shoot first ask questions later" approach. IF it turns out the driver is drunk, then I got no problem hearing that the driver "went missing" after that, never to be heard from again.
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