Used 911 Turbo vs New GTR vs SC M3

991GT3 · 08-12-2013, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex07M3

So what's your suggestion then, not buying the car he wants because it is modded or maybe creating a thread about his dilema so that people can give him advice about what to expect with supercharging an M3!!?

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No I'm saying is incorrect to lump them together at an equal entry cost point. Generally a modded vehicle is no bargain long term. If you love it, great. Just don't think they cost the same. Btw, I own a hennessey velociraptor so I'm not against modded vehicles.

Longboarder · 08-12-2013, 11:37 PM

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There are hundreds of ESS centrifugal S/C M3's out there. Yes boost is low. And so is torque. It makes a max of around 370 RWTQ between 6,500 and 8,500 RPM so it doesn't disrupt the platform. However 370 RWTQ at over 8,000 RPM means 550 to 600 RWHP

So yeah, you add positive displacement blower on an M3 and you break stuff and get wheel spin, etc...but put an ESS centrifugal system on and you have a platform that can fully handle it and a product that makes it seems like it's from the factory to begin with. And what about removing the mods and selling them? That's what I'm doing when my lease comes due.

Just curious.. Wouldn't SC mod void the warranty on your leased M3 and cause problem when you turn in your vehicle at the lease end? (assuming your lease is less than 39 months..)

The S/C and all other mods will be removed before the care is returned. The dealer won't know there was a S/C, BBK, exhaust, etc on there before.

I did this with two leased 335's already running FBO/meth, LSD, coils, etc.

Longboarder · 08-12-2013, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Skullbussa

Lol good luck trying to sell that supercharged M3. Talk about depreciation! I'd subtract the price of that ESS kit from the car, nobody is going to pay blue book prices for such a car.

You want a fun weekend car? I vote C6 Z06 with straight pipes or a Cayman S, get either one used for around $45k and call it a day. A turbo 911 and GT-R deserve to be driven more often than just weekends.

Luck is not needed when the M3 was leased

Mods get removed and sold easily.

HoodR$CH · 08-15-2013, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Longboarder

The S/C and all other mods will be removed before the care is returned. The dealer won't know there was a S/C, BBK, exhaust, etc on there before.

I did this with two leased 335's already running FBO/meth, LSD, coils, etc.

Haha, that's great! I feel sorry for whoever ended up buying those lease returns. I never thought of doing that but will now!

pbonsalb · 08-15-2013, 05:35 PM

I will buy the used 911 Turbo one day. First, the 911 Turbo has always been one of my "must have" cars. Second, I like turbos. Third, I like turbo torque. Fourth, I like AWD with big power. Fifth, with AWD, I can put snows on and get around well in the winter even with high power (I put snow wheels on my 560 rwhp E36 M3 Turbo and drive it all winter, but have to be careful due to the lack of traction control).

The centrifugal supercharged E90 M3 is a great car. Just not my first choice. If I had unlimited money, I would certainly supercharge mine.

KrackerXL · 08-15-2013, 05:56 PM

GTR... I've owned 2 m3's and just recently made the switch to gtr and I love it! Got the 600 kit on it and it's a monster and it was a lot cheaper than getting the m3 to have that much power.

Yeh the interior isnt the best but the stereo is really loud in my opinion. Also it looks a lot more unique than an m3 in terms of an average person.

W/// · 08-15-2013, 06:03 PM

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I will buy the used 911 Turbo one day. First, the 911 Turbo has always been one of my "must have" cars. Second, I like turbos. Third, I like turbo torque. Fourth, I like AWD with big power. Fifth, with AWD, I can put snows on and get around well in the winter even with high power (I put snow wheels on my 560 rwhp E36 M3 Turbo and drive it all winter, but have to be careful due to the lack of traction control).

The centrifugal supercharged E90 M3 is a great car. Just not my first choice. If I had unlimited money, I would certainly supercharge mine.

Absolutely +1. It's one of my all time favorite cars next to the M3. And it's just completely different. AWD, turbos, looks, P car... everything. I keep looking at that M4 and thinking "hmm I would". But at the end of the day, I need to have a 997.1 Turbo in my life.

F1Venom · 08-15-2013, 07:42 PM

How about a Noble M400? 0-60 in 3.4 sec and is amazing. It also costs around $65k.

1MOREMOD · 08-15-2013, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by F1Venom

How about a Noble M400? 0-60 in 3.4 sec and is amazing. It also costs around $65k.

Took a look at them when I was looking for new track car. Not very reliable and difficult to find as well.

i001947 · 08-19-2013, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackJetE90

Honestly don't put all that money in a M3. Waste.

Buy one of the other two.

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If I had that kind of money the 911 Turbo would be the one for me.

davcrz5 · 08-27-2013, 10:50 AM

911 turbo every enthusiast should own Pcar at least once in their lives, such fantastic car to drive.

track_warrior · 08-27-2013, 11:35 AM

Used GT3

krnnerdboy · 08-27-2013, 02:51 PM

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Used GT3

Gt3 doesn't have the power that the op desires...barely any faster than an m3, but that didn't stop me from buying it and tracking it the next day

krnnerdboy · 08-27-2013, 02:52 PM

Shameless plug

Wolfinwolfsclothing · 08-27-2013, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by krnnerdboy

Gt3 doesn't have the power that the op desires...barely any faster than an m3, but that didn't stop me from buying it and tracking it the next day

GT3 and M3 are worlds apart...universes even. By no stretch is an M3 even close in any aspect of performance.

For starters, the GT3 is a 120 mph trap speed car vs a 112 mph car...and thats not even getting into how much faster they are on the track.

Your GT3 looks incredible BTW.

USCTrojanMan29 · 08-27-2013, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by track_warrior

Used GT3

+1 The GT3 is so...

The Automotive Enthusiast · 08-27-2013, 07:56 PM

991 GT3, is what I'm aiming for. It looks absolutely amazing.

M3forMe · 08-27-2013, 08:35 PM

Turbo. Always wanted one and will get one eventually.

Why? Because it is the best car you listed. Modding is a waste of money so unless it is for the long haul the M3 would be the last choice. GTR would have to be number 2 but I just can't stand the looks of that car. They are U-G-L-Y.

Dartanium · 09-01-2013, 05:43 AM

it depends on which 911 turbo we are speaking here, if its 997.2PDK turbo then that would be the obvious choice

M3E46M · 09-01-2013, 11:12 PM

Look at my signature

TURBO!

devo · 09-02-2013, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by krnnerdboy

Gt3 doesn't have the power that the op desires...barely any faster than an m3, but that didn't stop me from buying it and tracking it the next day

that is some very funny sh*t...

M3ZCP6MT · 09-05-2013, 12:57 AM

Depends on how old the Turbo is and mileage. New GT-R sounds most logical given it is a new car with full warranty. However, IMO, 911 Turbo has a more refined appearance to it vs. GT-R's raw power.

If the Turbo is less than 2 years old and less than 10k miles and same price as new GT-R, I'd choose the Turbo. It also will retain much higher resale value since it has already taken the initial depreciation. Good luck.

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pbonsalb Lieutenant General 5228 Rep 10,611 Posts Drives: 18 F90 M5, 99 E36 M3 Turbo Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: New England iTrader: (4)	I will buy the used 911 Turbo one day. First, the 911 Turbo has always been one of my "must have" cars. Second, I like turbos. Third, I like turbo torque. Fourth, I like AWD with big power. Fifth, with AWD, I can put snows on and get around well in the winter even with high power (I put snow wheels on my 560 rwhp E36 M3 Turbo and drive it all winter, but have to be careful due to the lack of traction control). The centrifugal supercharged E90 M3 is a great car. Just not my first choice. If I had unlimited money, I would certainly supercharge mine.
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KrackerXL Lieutenant 26 Rep 422 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: COrona, iTrader: (1)	GTR... I've owned 2 m3's and just recently made the switch to gtr and I love it! Got the 600 kit on it and it's a monster and it was a lot cheaper than getting the m3 to have that much power. Yeh the interior isnt the best but the stereo is really loud in my opinion. Also it looks a lot more unique than an m3 in terms of an average person.
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F1Venom Banned 73 Rep 961 Posts Drives: ZCP E90 M3 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	How about a Noble M400? 0-60 in 3.4 sec and is amazing. It also costs around $65k.
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davcrz5 Private First Class 43 Rep 190 Posts Drives: X5 M Sport 2011, ISF 2011 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: New York iTrader: (0)	911 turbo every enthusiast should own Pcar at least once in their lives, such fantastic car to drive.
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track_warrior Captain 98 Rep 728 Posts Drives: F80 M3 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Merida, Yucatan iTrader: (1)	Used GT3 __________________ Compensating a heavy car with horsepower is like giving an alcoholic cocaine to sober him up...
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krnnerdboy Colonel 190 Rep 2,431 Posts Drives: v10 m6 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: so cal iTrader: (10)	Shameless plug Attached Images __________________ F80 m3, 997 gt3, 14 ram ctd, f15 x5, drz400sm Gone:z4m, boss 302, c6 z06, m6,z3m
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M3forMe M3 Dreamin' 37 Rep 531 Posts Drives: 13 E92 - AW Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Orange iTrader: (0)	Turbo. Always wanted one and will get one eventually. Why? Because it is the best car you listed. Modding is a waste of money so unless it is for the long haul the M3 would be the last choice. GTR would have to be number 2 but I just can't stand the looks of that car. They are U-G-L-Y. __________________ 2013 AW/BLK - DCT, Comp/Cold/Prem Mods - IND Beauty kit, CF Roundels, CF Splitters, AiB Angel Eyes, EAS Exhaust Tips! B&G lowering springs
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Dartanium Lieutenant 11 Rep 566 Posts Drives: 09 E90 M3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	it depends on which 911 turbo we are speaking here, if its 997.2PDK turbo then that would be the obvious choice
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M3E46M First Lieutenant 16 Rep 328 Posts Drives: 2008 BMW 335i E92 6 MT Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Somewhere on Planet Earth for now. iTrader: (2)	Look at my signature TURBO! __________________ .../// TURBO! Why in the world would you choose anything else?... ///
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M3ZCP6MT Captain 72 Rep 604 Posts Drives: 381 ///M3 Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Orange County iTrader: (0)	Depends on how old the Turbo is and mileage. New GT-R sounds most logical given it is a new car with full warranty. However, IMO, 911 Turbo has a more refined appearance to it vs. GT-R's raw power. If the Turbo is less than 2 years old and less than 10k miles and same price as new GT-R, I'd choose the Turbo. It also will retain much higher resale value since it has already taken the initial depreciation. Good luck. __________________ . /// M3 + 6MT + ZCP + ///MPE = A Healthy Addiction ///
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