Rogue (DCT) Pulley Review

powertrip · 06-06-2009, 01:47 AM

Hey all, I'm one of the first people to have the Rogue Pulley installed on a DCT equipped M3. It's an interesting set-up, as it comes with two pullies and two belts instead of the usual single pulley set-ups (ie: AA, Evosport). Honestly, I think it's pretty hard to feel an increase of 8-10 horsepower on a 400+ HP car. With that said, you REALLY feel the increased power "under the curve" and the car is much more responsive. In summation, I couldn't be happier with the performance. The fact that it's cheaper than AA & Evosport while providing more, is just icing on the cake

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GT3 Tim · 06-06-2009, 03:27 AM

I thought the RE pullies had been out for a while? Wasn't EAS advertising and selling these back in October?

Fill me in...I am confused.

zamm3k · 06-06-2009, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by GT3 Tim

I thought the RE pullies had been out for a while? Wasn't EAS advertising and selling these back in October?

Fill me in...I am confused.

I believe they hadn't developed the ones for the DCT tranny

thats what I think.

powertrip · 06-06-2009, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by zamm3k

I believe they hadn't developed the ones for the DCT tranny

thats what I think.

Exactly right, they were a little late to the game with the DCT pulley.

NFDoms2k1 · 06-09-2009, 11:52 AM

Alright, its finally out! I was there around a month and a half ago and Ben was explaining some of the issues they were having with developing the DCT one as (and I can't remember the details) it had something to do with the belt running the reverse of the MT and then the 09 has a certain type of groove vs. the 08. What really slowed them down though is that they are moving to a new location, which is great news for us NY/NJ guys (they will have two extra lifts, a dyno, and a more extensive retail section).

KiokenM3 · 06-09-2009, 01:52 PM

i def felt the car pull harder after my evosport pulley, but i also did the filter and intake scoops the same day so im sure that had something to do with it. enjoy your new found hp

powertrip · 06-09-2009, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KiokenM3

i def felt the car pull harder after my evosport pulley, but i also did the filter and intake scoops the same day so im sure that had something to do with it. enjoy your new found hp

Yeah, the response and torque bottom-mid feels much better. It finally feels like a V-8 in that range

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sparkyg · 06-09-2009, 02:33 PM

What type of belts did you get with the pulley set? NAPA, Conti ??

tom @ eas · 06-09-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sparkyg

What type of belts did you get with the pulley set? NAPA, Conti ??

Continental belts are provided with the Rogue sets.

sparkyg · 06-09-2009, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Continental belts are provided with the Rogue sets.

Thx Tom.

King Tut · 06-09-2009, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by powertrip

It's an interesting set-up, as it comes with two pullies and two belts instead of the usual single pulley set-ups (ie: AA, Evosport).

See that is so confusing. I am assuming this setup is the same for the 2009 6MT cars. I have the Evosport pulley, and I only got one pulley and one belt, and my pulley didn't look like any of the 2008 6MT pulley pics I have seen. I have a feeling I am going to change to the Rogue setup.

powertrip · 06-09-2009, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by King Tut

See that is so confusing. I am assuming this setup is the same for the 2009 6MT cars. I have the Evosport pulley, and I only got one pulley and one belt, and my pulley didn't look like any of the 2008 6MT pulley pics I have seen. I have a feeling I am going to change to the Rogue setup.

It's an awesome set-up. I honestly wasn't sold on spending the money on it, but a tuner buddy of mine persuaded me to. Glad I did now

ebohon · 06-09-2009, 10:04 PM

I'm scheduled to have the Rogue installed tomorrow on my '09 6MT.

It too is also a new design that was just released about a week or two ago. I'll let you guys know my impressions tomorrow!

tom @ eas · 06-09-2009, 10:11 PM

Here's the Rogue Pulley DIY, special thanks for powertrip for getting his M3 in quickly:

▀▄ eas | Rogue Engineering S65 Underdrive Pulley installation DIY
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=271330

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Originally Posted by ebohon

I'm scheduled to have the Rogue installed tomorrow on my '09 6MT.

It too is also a new design that was just released about a week or two ago. I'll let you guys know my impressions tomorrow!

We'll see you tomorrow.

doba_s · 06-09-2009, 10:20 PM

wait, so why do you need 2 pulleys ? wouldn't it be more work changing two pulleys and you will get the same result as just installing single AA pulley ?

tom @ eas · 06-09-2009, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by doba_s

wait, so why do you need 2 pulleys ? wouldn't it be more work changing two pulleys and you will get the same result as just installing single AA pulley ?

At a cost of having a belt available from a single source (AA). Replacement belts for the RE pulleys are widely available at any auto parts house. The additional pulley is simple to replace since the belts are already removed.

It's up to the end user from here.

sg///M3 · 06-10-2009, 07:47 AM

Any dyno numbers for this set-up?

tom @ eas · 06-10-2009, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by sg///M3

Any dyno numbers for this set-up?

Here's the RE Pulley dyno results (Mustang Dyno):

sg///M3 · 06-10-2009, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Here's the RE Pulley dyno results (Mustang Dyno):

Thanks! Is this for the 6MT or DCT? Is there a difference in HP increase between the two?

Pukulan · 06-10-2009, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by powertrip

It's an awesome set-up. I honestly wasn't sold on spending the money on it, but a tuner buddy of mine persuaded me to. Glad I did now

I had the pulleys installed by EAS on 6/5. (M-DCT) What a great bolt on for added hp/tq. A noticeable gain between the power ban in the mid range.

EAS did a great job on the install...... Thanks Tom!

King Tut · 06-10-2009, 11:27 AM

Those are year old dyno results from the 2008 6MT setup tom. Did RE do any dyno testing on the new pulley setup on a DCT or 2009 6MT?

tom @ eas · 06-10-2009, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by King Tut

Those are year old dyno results from the 2008 6MT setup tom. Did RE do any dyno testing on the new pulley setup on a DCT or 2009 6MT?

Not yet, the gains should be very similar across the board.

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