Got the guts and skills to race a C63 on TV on Forum Wars Season 2?

midlifecrisis · 12-12-2010, 04:46 AM

You don't have to nominate yourself Skierman - I'll do it for you!

vladberca · 12-12-2010, 06:37 AM

Interesting event

hotrod182 · 12-12-2010, 08:32 AM

If its mod for mod then the displacement advantage of the C63 is too much to overcome. The AMG has about 40% more engine displacement. But only about 10% more weight. If you limited it to tune..high octane fuel...and DRs....the 335i would be a better challenge. A 335I is capable of 11second qtr miles with those minor mods. If they somehow allowed the installation of forced induction on the AMG....its displacement advantage would be amplified even further over a FI M3

cmk227 · 12-12-2010, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by skierman64

I'll nominate myself.

BMWCCA and Audi club instructor
26 track days last year and 14 years track experience
Stock '08 DCT and new PS2s. Although I'd rather someone sponsor me some PS Cups.

We need to do this on a real road course not some cones in a parking lot. The M3 can't win the 2 straight line contests.

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Originally Posted by EnjoixE92

my bro's C63 is going to be there with the 20" HRE's

Good...advantage M3.

My vote too!

alefcole · 12-12-2010, 01:31 PM

skierman64 FTW

Wolf · 12-12-2010, 06:32 PM

Paul walker... yeah!

onefastman · 12-12-2010, 06:43 PM

Can I run my 135i or is it just the m3 that can compete?

onefastman · 12-12-2010, 07:01 PM

Sent a email as I am free over break. We will see what happens...

wisesoul · 12-12-2010, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by onefastman

Can I run my 135i or is it just the m3 that can compete?

Even with a tune on your N54, if that C63 is the slightest bit modified with an ok driver, you will get pummeled. No offense. BMWs aren't suited for straight lines

02black330ci · 12-12-2010, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 330CIZHP

I nominate DLSJ5

+ 1

1cleanm6 · 12-12-2010, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by wisesoul

Even with a tune on your N54, if that C63 is the slightest bit modified with an ok driver, you will get pummeled. No offense. BMWs aren't suited for straight lines

you obviously dont know the capabilities of the 135/335's.

i vote alexs car from gintani lol game over

wisesoul · 12-12-2010, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 1cleanm3

you obviously dont know the capabilities of the 135/335's.

i vote alexs car from gintani lol game over

If the cars are supposed to have similar modifications like stated above, I doubt an N54 has a chance.

skierman64 · 12-12-2010, 10:16 PM

BTW, the more I think about this the more I realize this shouldn't be a 1 on 1 challange but perhaps a 3 on 3 or 5 on 5. An average of 3 or 5 different cars on each side would be a better picture of which car is better. I'm game either way.

Let's just do this straight time comparison and give us the total of two autocross runs. The quickest (lowest) additive time of one 1/4 mile, one 0-100-0, and 2 autocross runs wins. I'd still prefer a road course to a auto-x. That's where the M3 will shine.

issabmw · 12-12-2010, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 1cleanm3

you obviously dont know the capabilities of the 135/335's.

i vote alexs car from gintani lol game over

+1

A properly modded N54 (all the essentials) will give the C63 something to think about.

issabmw · 12-12-2010, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by skierman64

BTW, the more I think about this the more I realize this shouldn't be a 1 on 1 challange but perhaps a 3 on 3 or 5 on 5. An average of 3 or 5 different cars on each side would be a better picture of which car is better. I'm game either way.

Let's just do this straight time comparison and give us the total of two autocross runs. The quickest (lowest) additive time of one 1/4 mile, one 0-100-0, and 2 autocross runs wins. I'd still prefer a road course to a auto-x. That's where the M3 will shine.

You have my vote.

timsev · 12-13-2010, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by wisesoul

Even with a tune on your N54, if that C63 is the slightest bit modified with an ok driver, you will get pummeled. No offense. BMWs aren't suited for straight lines

lol, onefastmans car will give any AMG a run for its money.

smmmurf · 12-13-2010, 10:43 AM

I am nonprofessional and can drive. Have raced before/won a scca regional championship/currently instruct... I can provide results and more info... Let me know.

griffon252 · 12-13-2010, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by skierman64

BTW, the more I think about this the more I realize this shouldn't be a 1 on 1 challange but perhaps a 3 on 3 or 5 on 5. An average of 3 or 5 different cars on each side would be a better picture of which car is better. I'm game either way.

Let's just do this straight time comparison and give us the total of two autocross runs. The quickest (lowest) additive time of one 1/4 mile, one 0-100-0, and 2 autocross runs wins. I'd still prefer a road course to a auto-x. That's where the M3 will shine.

you have my vote. ForumWars needs to post what mods are allowed for each car.

But, looking at the post on BenzWorld it might be a forfeit in our favor, they don't have much activity in their thread.

onefastman · 12-13-2010, 01:24 PM

I think I would have a shot. Mine has run as low as a 12.03 @ 118.5 (on runflats) and I could have gone 1.5psi more. If I had cut a better 60' I would have been well into the 11's (only a 1.9).

I sent in my letter and we will see what happens

330CIZHP · 12-13-2010, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by onefastman

I think I would have a shot. Mine has run as low as a 12.03 @ 118.5 (on runflats) and I could have gone 1.5psi more. If I had cut a better 60' I would have been well into the 11's (only a 1.9).

I sent in my letter and we will see what happens

I switch my vote to this guy. With some real sticky tires, an 11 second M3 will be a force to be reckoned with.

onefastman · 12-13-2010, 01:34 PM

Its actually a 135i lol

Also looked up the quarter mile time for the c63: Car and driver had it at 12.3 @116mph and most are seeing 12.5-12.7 @ 113-114 so if its stock I may have to de-tune to make it fair.

On the track if his suspension is stock, and I dont get lost on course, then that is a win there.

If all went as planned then there would be no 3rd round which I think I would win anyway with the 135i's 6-piston brakes.

onefastman · 12-13-2010, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 330CIZHP

I switch my vote to this guy. With some real sticky tires, an 11 second M3 will be a force to be reckoned with.

Send in a nomination please and give me something to do over winter break

theforumwars@gmail.com

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12-12-2010, 08:32 AM	#69
hotrod182 . 809 Rep 3,974 Posts Drives: 2023 i4 M50 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: California iTrader: (0)	If its mod for mod then the displacement advantage of the C63 is too much to overcome. The AMG has about 40% more engine displacement. But only about 10% more weight. If you limited it to tune..high octane fuel...and DRs....the 335i would be a better challenge. A 335I is capable of 11second qtr miles with those minor mods. If they somehow allowed the installation of forced induction on the AMG....its displacement advantage would be amplified even further over a FI M3 __________________ 2011 Alpine 335d M-Sport 12.34 @ 110.48mph 2019 i3s Terra, 2008 Black 335i Sedan. 11.11@ 129.47 mph 2008 Monaco Blue JB3 2.0 335i Coupe. 11.33 @ 132.77 mph, 60-130mph: 6.95 seconds 2023 i4 M50 11.48 @ 121.56mph, 3.43 0-60 (dragy)
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onefastman Major General 159 Rep 5,689 Posts Drives: 2009 135i 2011 e92m dct Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Earth iTrader: (15)	Sent a email as I am free over break. We will see what happens... __________________ Legal Disclaimer: Anything I or anyone else says about my vehicle on this website(1addicts.com or any affiliated or nonaffiliated sites), pertaining to modifications, is only to gain acceptance from my/our peers, and does not actually represent anything actually existing on my car, and thus, cannot be held against me in any issues, i.e. warranty claims, that may arise.
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onefastman Major General 159 Rep 5,689 Posts Drives: 2009 135i 2011 e92m dct Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Earth iTrader: (15)	I think I would have a shot. Mine has run as low as a 12.03 @ 118.5 (on runflats) and I could have gone 1.5psi more. If I had cut a better 60' I would have been well into the 11's (only a 1.9). I sent in my letter and we will see what happens __________________ Legal Disclaimer: Anything I or anyone else says about my vehicle on this website(1addicts.com or any affiliated or nonaffiliated sites), pertaining to modifications, is only to gain acceptance from my/our peers, and does not actually represent anything actually existing on my car, and thus, cannot be held against me in any issues, i.e. warranty claims, that may arise.
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12-13-2010, 01:34 PM	#87
onefastman Major General 159 Rep 5,689 Posts Drives: 2009 135i 2011 e92m dct Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Earth iTrader: (15)	Its actually a 135i lol Also looked up the quarter mile time for the c63: Car and driver had it at 12.3 @116mph and most are seeing 12.5-12.7 @ 113-114 so if its stock I may have to de-tune to make it fair. On the track if his suspension is stock, and I dont get lost on course, then that is a win there. If all went as planned then there would be no 3rd round which I think I would win anyway with the 135i's 6-piston brakes. __________________ Legal Disclaimer: Anything I or anyone else says about my vehicle on this website(1addicts.com or any affiliated or nonaffiliated sites), pertaining to modifications, is only to gain acceptance from my/our peers, and does not actually represent anything actually existing on my car, and thus, cannot be held against me in any issues, i.e. warranty claims, that may arise.
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