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03-06-2011, 10:01 PM | #1 |
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How to prevent mis-shift/over-rev at track?
I did my first track day in M3 yesterday. I had problem with shifting because the engine/exhaust sound was so damn quiet and couldn't find the right angle to look at the rev indicator.
Wonder what's the solution for this other than running louder exhaust set up? |
03-06-2011, 10:04 PM | #2 |
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megan racing exhaust and bmw performance steering-wheel with shift lights.
if you really want to go crazy get an x-pipe too.
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03-06-2011, 10:47 PM | #4 |
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Do you have DCT or 6MT?
In either case I think the best solution is to determine a plan for shifting up/down throughout the race track. It's just like how you would have brake markers before turns. |
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Sorry for not explaining clearly, I only had problem with upshifting.
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03-06-2011, 10:49 PM | #6 |
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It's DCT. The power deliveries sooo smooth that I can't figure out where the rev is at without looking at it.
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03-07-2011, 03:58 AM | #7 |
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The shift warning lights should be the answer. But I've always been frustrated with their location. They are too far below line of site, and they are completely worthless while cornering because my hands get in the way. the performance steering wheel is great but expensive. Anyway, sorry, not much advice here, just commiserating. Best advise was given above concerning identifying shift points along the track. Best.
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03-07-2011, 06:15 AM | #8 |
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I was thinking about one of these:
http://store.traqmate.com/Shift-I-Shift-Light-s/48.htm http://store.traqmate.com/Shift-I-Flat-p/500003.htm |
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03-07-2011, 11:42 AM | #9 | |
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I managed to adjust the position of the steering wheel so that the lights are always visible. I can see the lights with peripheral vision without taking my eyes off the track, so it can be done with some practice. In fact, some racers memorize revs at particular points of the track and compare them to adjust braking points etc., and this involves actually seeing the numbers on the tachometer while racing. So try to improve your peripheral vision with training. |
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03-07-2011, 10:24 PM | #12 |
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I'm suprised at how many people have chimed in here suggesting aids such as shift lights. As a driving coach, I would insist that you use your peripheral vision to monitor your surroundings. Tach and gauges in included!
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The new car seems to be easier to hear. I noticed it was louder than the 2009 the first time I got in it. Hopefully, when I get it to the track, I won't totally embarass myself again. Since this one is a 6sp, I'll have to figure out my shift points all-over again.
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03-08-2011, 09:14 AM | #14 |
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totally agree. shift points throughout the course shouldn't change from lap to lap.
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I'm from the old school of thought that you should be able to always hear what the engine is doing. I'm installing a louder exhaust - not just for track, the car has amazing sound potential. Hopefully it will be loud enough...
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As for shifting, I have a 6MT, but I have driven the DCT. I can tell you that it is night and day. The 6MT is much easier to shift at redline. With DCT it all seems the same. My friend Chris tracks his E90 w/ DCT and for awhile he just let the car shift itself. Seemed to get rid of that problem
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