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      07-20-2011, 02:14 PM   #23
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Great, so this is a direct tune and no need to send in your ECU?

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      07-20-2011, 02:14 PM   #24
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Great - So if I want a tune with stock exhaust & one with test pipes what are we talking $$$ wise?
995 + 100 for the catless option. This gives you both files.
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      07-20-2011, 02:18 PM   #25
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Great, so this is a direct tune and no need to send in your ECU?

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Correct, the DirectFlash can tune all E9x M3 software incl. the latest tuner locked revisions without the need to backdate the ECU to a older non-locked version like 140E. This way we preserve all functionality of the later generations of BMW software like the start-stop feature and there is no software mismatch bugs like missing speed signal to ECU etc.
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      07-20-2011, 02:19 PM   #26
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i really need to catch-up. hahaha.

so glad you guys are finally releasing this... i've seen other DF's but all of the other ones revert back to an older form of the software.

so glad to see ESS can tune even the LATEST "tuner protected" software from BMW.
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      07-20-2011, 02:19 PM   #27
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Just mostly curious here...but why is there such a huge leap in price for the akrapovic 'tune'?
We put a lot of time and effort into our Akra tune, and due to the low amount of sales it makes every license more expensive than high-volume software.

You can also run the Akra Evo exhaust system with the normal ESS catless software, but it is not as refined as the Akra specific tune.
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      07-20-2011, 02:21 PM   #28
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995 + 100 for the catless option. This gives you both files.
So when I'm loading the tune am I prompted for these?
-Removal of cold start cat heat cycle for caltless / high flow exhaust.
-Removed top speed governor.
-Raised RPM limit

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      07-20-2011, 02:28 PM   #29
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So when I'm loading the tune am I prompted for the following-
-Removal of cold start cat heat cycle for caltless / high flow exhaust.
-Removed top speed governor.
-Raised RPM limit
Yes, you can request desired RPM limit (normal is 8400 or 8600 which is max we recommend), top speed governor, catless option etc. You can also get the normal DirectFlash and upgrade to the Akra/custom tune later. The unit is updated through emailed files.
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So when I'm loading the tune am I prompted for these?
-Removal of cold start cat heat cycle for caltless / high flow exhaust.
-Removed top speed governor.
-Raised RPM limit
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Yes, you can request desired RPM limit (normal is 8400 or 8600 which is max we recommend), top speed governor, catless option etc. You can also get the normal DirectFlash and upgrade to the Akra/custom tune later. The unit is updated through emailed files.
I think Moxie was asking if you are prompted for these options when you plug the loader into the car, not whether or not you can request the options. The answer sounds like no, you have to use a different map but ESS can send you the map and the loader can store up to 10 anyways.

I personally have ESS Akrapovic tune, and while I'm very dissapointed that this option wasn't available to me earlier (I have tunerlocked ECU, I would have gotten the loader and tuned it at home and it would have saved me a lot of inconvenience and I could have gotten a loader to boot, while keeping stock file for dealership trips like my most recent one), I have to say that I'm very happy with the tune itself.
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      07-20-2011, 02:54 PM   #31
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      07-20-2011, 02:58 PM   #32
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How much is the direct flash only if I already have a tune with ESS?

My dealer reflashed me during my warranty visit and I have been waiting for the DF to come out instead of sending my ecu in per Roman's recommendation.

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There is no need to send the ECU in. We can tune any version of software including locked versions with Direct Flash now. You can store different files such as a high octane fuel map etc.. And switch anytime.
Thats great to hear,thanks for making this point clear !
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Nope, not with the newest version of DirectFlash software. All E9x M3's can be tuned directly with the flashloader regardless of software version. For anyone with the previous version of DirectFlash OS, this new update will apply to those as well and make their DirectFlash units compatible with the latest BMW software if they ever get flashed back to stock at the dealer.
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I think Moxie was asking if you are prompted for these options when you plug the loader into the car, not whether or not you can request the options. The answer sounds like no, you have to use a different map but ESS can send you the map and the loader can store up to 10 anyways.

I personally have ESS Akrapovic tune, and while I'm very dissapointed that this option wasn't available to me earlier (I have tunerlocked ECU, I would have gotten the loader and tuned it at home and it would have saved me a lot of inconvenience and I could have gotten a loader to boot, while keeping stock file for dealership trips like my most recent one), I have to say that I'm very happy with the tune itself.
The DirectFlash works by reading the stock ECU software first, then emailing these to ESS. Then new files are generated based on what version is in the car. These are received on email from us and stored permanently in the DirectFlash unit for later map switching. When you request your ESS files, you can simply state the option you want and we will generate the file accordingly.

You can contact Roman at esstuning.com for info on upgrading to the DF platform. It makes sense to do this next time the dealer resets your car instead of sending in the ECU.
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      07-20-2011, 03:23 PM   #35
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No need to send ecu in anymore either they can tune locked software with direct flash !
pretty neat !!!
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      07-20-2011, 03:27 PM   #36
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We put a lot of time and effort into our Akra tune, and due to the low amount of sales it makes every license more expensive than high-volume software.

You can also run the Akra Evo exhaust system with the normal ESS catless software, but it is not as refined as the Akra specific tune.
The Akrapovic tune is well worth the money! I ran this with my evo before I supercharged and I'd recommend it to anyone with an evolution.
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      07-20-2011, 04:09 PM   #37
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very nice, im torn with what to chose as well
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Congrats on the release of another great option for convenient tuning! It's great to see how technology progresses in our car community. Although 'self-ecu flashing' has been around for awhile, it's great to see it implement into the BMW culture as well now.

With so many people upgrading their supercharger kits too, this is a very convenient way to make transitions!
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We put a lot of time and effort into our Akra tune, and due to the low amount of sales it makes every license more expensive than high-volume software.

You can also run the Akra Evo exhaust system with the normal ESS catless software, but it is not as refined as the Akra specific tune.
AJ,

Suppose i have Turner test pipes combined with the stock X pipe, so No primaries but stock secondaries, X pipe and resonators are there!!<< this setup is 99% like Akra i belive so, do i need to run the Akra tune or the normal catless yune? and do u have a different map if any aftermarket rear mufflers were added??

one more question i asked already but not yet answered by you guys:
if i order ESS supercharger, would i be able to use this DF to remap my ecu??

Thanks
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      07-20-2011, 04:37 PM   #40
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It's great to see the competition picking up - everyone benefits! This looks like a really simple, elegant device.

Can you tell me what features/functionality are available in the latest software, aside from start/stop, that are not available in older versions?
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Does the tune still retain the anti-knock feature from BMW?

Like the 93 tune, what happens if you have to use 91 or even 87. Will the engine still delay timing?
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      07-20-2011, 04:48 PM   #42
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Suppose i have Turner test pipes combined with the stock X pipe, so No primaries but stock secondaries, X pipe and resonators are there!!<< this setup is 99% like Akra i belive so, do i need to run the Akra tune or the normal catless yune? and do u have a different map if any aftermarket rear mufflers were added??

one more question i asked already but not yet answered by you guys:
if i order ESS supercharger, would i be able to use this DF to remap my ecu??

Thanks
This setup would run well with the normal tune with cat detection removed. The Akra software is made especially to compensate for the bottom range flow characteristics of the Akrapovic Evo system.

And yes, the same DirectFlash can be used to load our supercharger software also. We will simply mail you the file when you order the kit.
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Does the tune still retain the anti-knock feature from BMW?

Like the 93 tune, what happens if you have to use 91 or even 87. Will the engine still delay timing?
Yes, ESS never removes the anti-knock systems or margins. We never force timing or modify allowed cylinder noise levels. If you fill lower grade fuel by accident, the ECU will adapt and run perfectly safe.
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How these you guys or any tuner for that matter can't figure out how to flash the ECU back and forth from performance tune to factory tune and cover up all traces of the ECU ever being messed with? In therory it doesn't seem too difficult. Just save an image of the ECU at the time it is flashed with the performance tune and when you need to bring the car in to BMW for any service just flash the ECU with the image that was taken before the flash. It has to be possible.
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