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10-15-2010, 07:52 PM | #1 |
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FINALLY got to the track!!
Track: NJMP-Thunderbolt
Organization: AudiNA NJ Chapter Dates: Oct 12-13th Group: Green Instructor: Mike aka Skierman64 of M3post Cars in Green: VW GTI (Racaros, SeatBelt harness, No Rear seats, Upgraded brakes & minor engine mods), VW Beatle Sport, Audi S4, S5 & R8 V8, Mini Cooper, Audi Avant (only day 1) and myself in the ///M First and foremost I would like to give a HUGE THANK YOU to Mike for doing such a great job instructing me during my first two trackdays, he gave me constant feed back on my good & bad driving. I would have never imagined to have bumped into Mike @ an Audi trackday let alone have him as my instructor, it was nice to have a familiar face to have as a passenger especially @ the track During my ride alongs w/ Mike I was able to see how his precise instruction translated in his FASTER driving and I was able to see the track from a different viewpoint. I personally am not new to the Track experience b/c I have done about 20 trackdays on my motorcycles (Barber, Pocono, NHIS, Summit Point) like others have told me I do believe that my prior experience Riding on the track helped me w/ a smoother transition over to Car Trackdays. Needless to say my first day started off w/ a bit of nervousness from all the anticipation to get onto the track. After our class room session we had our first RIDE ALONG in our Instructors car so we can learn the track and see what the proper line is, then after about 2 laps we switched over into our own cars and did more of same Learning the track and line w/ our instructors giving directions. After a couple laps the jitters started to fade away and I was able to start picking up the pace and focus on Mikes instruction: BRAKE, TURNIN NOW!!, TRACKOUT, GET ON IT wash rinse & repeat, by the end of my first session my cheeks were starting to feel sore from smiling Fast forward to the end of Day 2, Mike is giving minor instructions b/c I've learned the line and have been keeping a nice quick pace. There were some places were I could have carried more speed into the corners and Mike would inform me of this & the following lap my goal was to make sure I corrected my mistake. My biggest issue arose when I really started picking up the pace and started staying @ WOT on the front straight until the Braking marker 5, I was having difficulty jamming on the break, downshifting & smoothly releasing the clutch so I would avoid wheel hop & unsettling the backend, Mikes instruction helped me correct it once again but then after a couple laps I would again return to releasing the clutch too quickly...I would correct it and then again make the same stupid mistake I need to start practicing my Heat Toe more The M performed flawlessly and I ran most of the 2days in EDC Sport & Power off w/ MDM on, MDM kicked in probably a hand full of times when I would get on the power a little too early while Tracking Out, Brakes are stock except for upgraded brake fluid and also performed great but had minor chatter from all the heavy braking but they never lost their bite. Mike installed his Kodak camera for one session on day2 and I'm eager to see myself in action again and see my lines and how I can improve them for the next time I go down to Thunderbolt I wish it wasn't October so I didn't have to wait so many months to get back on the track but next year I'll be aiming to get at least a 1 or 2 days a month during the season once again I'm hooked See you @ the track
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10-15-2010, 10:07 PM | #3 |
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Yes but this I knew when I first drove it when I got it in 08 but now I'm more in love with it...car is fast and nimble
During all the sessions I was passing pretty much at-will but not b/c of HP b/c my friend in the GTI was keeping up in the corners but by the end of day 2 it started getting pretty difficult for him until I started to let up b/c of fatigue.... I maintained pretty good lines through out the two days and that counts more then speed...
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10-16-2010, 09:41 PM | #4 |
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Agreed. Just don't realize how good this car is until you go to the track and realize the biggest liability with this car is the driver. IMO only way to truly appreciate this car.
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10-16-2010, 10:54 PM | #5 |
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Congrats. Sounds like a fun weekend.
Put more tape on that car!! If you're going to track a few times year, just spend the $150 and get a Colgan bra. It's much easier to install than taping the car up.
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Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
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10-17-2010, 07:39 PM | #6 |
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no worries the entire front end is clearbra'd but i'm considering getting a Colgan Bra for winter, might not look as pretty but winter salt & rocks suck so it will be an added layer of protection
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if I wasn't going away Halloween weekend I would have signed up w/ NASA for Tbolt they are down there 29th-31st
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Looks like you had a good time! Small world that Mike was your instructor!
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definitely Mike is an amazing instructor & driver, I hope next year he comes to the East Coast & does some trackdays so he can instruct me again
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As a matter of fact I might be driving down to FL in late January early Feb, if I do I'm going to see if their are any trackdays being held down @ any of the Southern tracks....would love to do Barber (rode it) & Road Atlanta
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what tires were you using?
Do you recommend for beginner HPDE events that stock brake pads with upgraded fluid is sufficient? How did the pads feel later that day when you drove the car home? |
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As a beginner that hasn't done any trackdays I do recommend using the stock brake pads w/ upgraded fluid, for the simple fact that you get to really feel what your stock pads are capable of. My brakes held up great IMO, maybe at a track with harder braking zones they may have not fared too well but for Thunderbolt IMO they were perfect. If I was 2-3 seconds faster then maybe I would have felt them wear more, but they felt great through out the two days with only minor chatter from brake residue build up. Even though it had the buildup I still felt they didn't lose too much bite and the drive home they were fine & now all the residue is gone. I have a set of RS19 Pagid that I will be installing early next season & maybe I'll upgrade my lines too, I'm not going to spend big $ on a BBK instead I'm going to use that money to do more trackdays (if time allows) & my 2-3yr plan is to buy a used E46 to convert to trackduty. My goal for next year will be 2trackdays a month during the entire season
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I've been tardy on my post in this thread. Monsta told me he posted here but I just didn't take the time to make a few comments.
First off, it was a pleasure having him as a student. I had a few newbies as students this season and he was the best. Obviously his previous motorcycle track experience carried over to driving the M3 and he has a natural understanding of car dynamics that is sometimes lost on newbies until they get some track time under their belts. It was fun to instruct him in the M3, his cars handled predictably and the braking and acceleration were impressive, even without any power mods (except exhaust). Speaking of exhaust, this Vorsteiner sounded amazing without being too loud. I might have to spring for one instead of putting all my extra cash into my track car. I primarily instruct with the BMWCCA but I have also instructed with Audi. Both organizations run similar schools and run them in a professional and very safe manner. If anyone has questions about HPDE's be sure to drop me a line. Monsta, it was my pleasure, thanks for contributing to a great weekend at the track, and for letting me stay in the empty room at the condo, saving me a few hours of driving.
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