Official: Ventura County Chat Thread

[Definitive]

I was thinking of a flip up one so it's full face but can flip up while waiting or what not.

[E90///M3`]

Originally Posted by Definitive

I was thinking of a flip up one so it's full face but can flip up while waiting or what not.

as long as it has a current SNELL rating then it should be fine.

i had one of those helmets back in the day when i was drag racing.

if i was going to get another modular helmet... i like the HJC Sy-Max III in matte black...

[Definitive]

Oh sorry darren just saw the price. The one I'm getting is 110 new.

Thanks, though.

[Empower3d]

Originally Posted by Definitive

Oh sorry darren just saw the price. The one I'm getting is 110 new.

Thanks, though.

Whoa that's a good price... you sure its an Snell "SA" rated one for automobiles, and not a "M" rated for motorcycles ?

[Definitive]

Ok well maybe I'm not getting a helmet now... I was told to make sure it was DOT rated, so I picked one out and almost bought it. What's the deal? It has to be Snell? Is that a requirement? You would think any motorcycle helmet would be more than safe enough in a closed car...

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[Empower3d]

Originally Posted by Definitive

Ok well maybe I'm not getting a helmet now... I was told to make sure it was DOT rated, so I picked one out and almost bought it. What's the deal? It has to be Snell? Is that a requirement? You would think any motorcycle helmet would be more than safe enough in a closed car...

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I think it depends on the organizer... I think most places don't care which Snell rated one, SA or M, however, if you're gonna buy one and use it more than once I'd get a SA rated one.

The SA standard includes a rollbar multi-impact test, and M standard doesn't.

[E90///M3`]

Originally Posted by Empower3d

Whoa that's a good price... you sure its an Snell "SA" rated one for automobiles, and not a "M" rated for motorcycles ?

Originally Posted by Empower3d

I think it depends on the organizer... I think most places don't care which Snell rated one, SA or M, however, if you're gonna buy one and use it more than once I'd get a SA rated one.

The SA standard includes a rollbar multi-impact test, and M standard doesn't.

this is true... i've seen people use dirt bike helmets on a track. it all depends on the organizer.

Snell SA/K rating is for automotive motorsports and Karting.

Snell M is motorcycle riding sports.

with that said... the current Snell SA/K and Snell-M is: SA/K2010 and M2010. M2005 is still accepted because M2010 just came out. Some organizers might be so strict as to not let you race if your helmet is greater than 5yo. It all depends on the tech who's checking your car. If it's self-tech, it's on you! haha

[persian54]

Difference, from my understanding, is the M ones aren't all designed to be fireproof, while the Snell ones for cars are designed to be fireproof.

I think that is the major difference

[Definitive]

Well. FML. what you use Sean?

[E90///M3`]

Originally Posted by persian54

Difference, from my understanding, is the M ones aren't all designed to be fireproof, while the Snell ones for cars are designed to be fireproof.

I think that is A major difference

fixed...

The SA standard was designed for competitive auto racing while the M standard was for motorcycling and other motorsports. The K standard was released to accommodate helmets used in karting.

There are three major differences between them:

1 - The SA standard requires flammability test while the M and K standards do not.
2 - The SA and K standards allow for a narrower visual field than the M standard (Some SA and K certified helmets may not be street legal).
3 - The SA and K standards include a rollbar multi-impact test while the M standard does not.

[E90///M3`]

Originally Posted by Definitive

Well. FML. what you use Sean?

he uses an open face helmet... Bell Racing i believe? or was it Simpson?

mine is Bell.

[creaminz]

Bell Sport SA10. $230 is cheapest you will find brand new
It is Black. If you need let me know. $210 cash or paypal gift Jamie

[WesleyC]

I spy a 70-200mm F/4

[WesleyC]

On an unrelated note, Windows 8 looks really cool. I'm going to install it on my desktop when it comes out. I have Vista right now, which sucks, and I've thought of upgrading to 7, but I think I'll wait for 8. Does anybody know when it's coming out?

[creaminz]

I agree Wes. 8 looks sick. 70-200L lol

[persian54]

Originally Posted by E90///M3`

fixed...

The SA standard was designed for competitive auto racing while the M standard was for motorcycling and other motorsports. The K standard was released to accommodate helmets used in karting.

There are three major differences between them:

1 - The SA standard requires flammability test while the M and K standards do not.
2 - The SA and K standards allow for a narrower visual field than the M standard (Some SA and K certified helmets may not be street legal).
3 - The SA and K standards include a rollbar multi-impact test while the M standard does not.

Thanks for the info

I use G force I think... forgot the name...

I may change to a Bell. We'll see

[LateBraking]

I use a Pyrotect. I got it from SoloRacer.com. It was one of the few that came in XXL, and it was the lightest SNELL SA2010-rated sub-$300.00 helmet they carried. I'm actually pretty satisfied with it. Comfortable.

http://soloracer.com/pyrotectproair.html

Organizers like SpeedVentures, BMWCCA, NASA, etc. require SNELL rating. Snell is approved to way higher standards, and every helmet has to be tested prior to approval. DOT is based on the honor system, and every year the Department of Transportation just randomly picks a handful of helmets throughout the world and tests them to their low standards.

Since you're trusting your life to a helmet, even if a organizer doesn't require SNELL, it's probably best to go for one anyways. You never know if the DOT helmet you have is actually safe or not, since they're almost never tested, and even if tested, their standards are still pretty poor in comparison to SNELL Memorial Foundation.

[persian54]

Originally Posted by LateBraking

I use a Pyrotect. I got it from SoloRacer.com. It was one of the few that came in XXL, and it was the lightest SNELL SA2010-rated sub-$300.00 helmet they carried. I'm actually pretty satisfied with it. Comfortable.

http://soloracer.com/pyrotectproair.html

Someone sounds like a sales rep

[LateBraking]

Originally Posted by persian54

Someone sounds like a sales rep

Just this once, not all the time Sean. Also, I'd hate to see a fellow M3poster get injured.

"I'm not affiliated with SoloRacer.com in any way."

[GOLFFRR]

happy turkey day everyone

[M_BYEEE]

Happy Thankgiving all my homies!!!

[WesleyC]

Happy Thanksgiving, guys! What's everybody doing today? I'm in SF for the weekend spending time with some family. Should be a fun time.