M3 Production Numbers Update - 100k cars? - No way

mdosu · 08-13-2011, 09:20 AM

i'm surprised to see the E93 figures are higher than E90.

e46e92love · 08-13-2011, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Technic

We complain about the shared turbo motor in the F32 M3 when in fact that should keep its entry price semi-decent and stable for at least couple of years after its premiere. No more expensive, single-purpose, single-model engines in poor sellers...

Thank god, hate those single purpose rare engines.....I want those one engine fits all powerplants

Cheers,
e46e92

bobbyd1961 · 08-13-2011, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pman10

Well, it's pretty obvious with those figures why sedans will be axed

not sure they are going to be axed

swamp2 · 08-15-2011, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by southlight

Not sure if you saw that but the article is from Sep 2010. Numbers should be a bit better by now.

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Originally Posted by Technic

Everything seems to look like the complete E9x M3 production run will be slightly less than 5-calendar (late 2007 outside USA, up to June 2012) years because of the poor sales...

Thanks South, I did miscaclulate based on todays date not a 9/2010 date. If the second is also true then that would put total production much closer to 85-90k. Either way the total average to date at the time the article was published was about 18k cars/yr. 6 years of production (at the same sales rate) would indeed put the car over 100k cars.

Almost need to change my thread title now...

Thanks guys.

-=Hot|Ice=- · 08-15-2011, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by PhillyNate

Now I can't help be curious how many (997) Porsche 911's are out there since that was the other car in my consideration. And it's a not so direct competitor.

There are like 25 different 911 variants. Do you mean the whole 911 line or just a specific one?

Damage Inc · 08-15-2011, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Technic

We complain about the shared turbo motor in the F32 M3 when in fact that should keep its entry price semi-decent and stable for at least couple of years after its premiere. No more expensive, single-purpose, single-model engines in poor sellers...

I'm not interested in a shared motor. Wasnt that a big part of the premium of the M cars?

What's the price difference between a tuned 335 and an M3, if they both have the same motor? Probably minimal to most buyers.

PhillyNate · 08-15-2011, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by -=Hot|Ice=-

There are like 25 different 911 variants. Do you mean the whole 911 line or just a specific one?

A total number would be a good starting point and then a breakdown per variant. I'm most concerned with base Carrera's and Carrera S'.

Technic · 08-15-2011, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MojorisinM3

I'm not interested in a shared motor. Wasnt that a big part of the premium of the M cars?

What's the price difference between a tuned 335 and an M3, if they both have the same motor? Probably minimal to most buyers.

Well, cross that new M3 out from your future if you have not done so already because that's what we are going to get.

1MOREMOD · 08-15-2011, 06:04 PM

weak. guess its to be expected but still sucks balls

mkoesel · 08-15-2011, 08:36 PM

How many E6x M5/M6 were sold? Wasn't it like 65k total? I can't imagine the M3 will sell less than that... if it does you can't really blame the economy when the more expensive model seems to have done just fine.

-=Hot|Ice=- · 08-16-2011, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by PhillyNate

A total number would be a good starting point and then a breakdown per variant. I'm most concerned with base Carrera's and Carrera S'.

For 2010:

http://porschebahn.wordpress.com/201...s-for-porsche/

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At the Zuffenhausen plant, production of the 911 model line fell by 2 per cent to 7,174 vehicles

PhillyNate · 08-16-2011, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by -=Hot|Ice=-

For 2010:

http://porschebahn.wordpress.com/201...s-for-porsche/

Interesting. Thank you.

arter · 08-16-2011, 05:42 PM

Sold more pamamera's than 911's

AMPowerJ · 08-16-2011, 05:46 PM

If they only produced 6700 E90's then a disproportional amount are represented on this forum. Seems like half the people here have E90's.

Echo M3 · 08-16-2011, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AMPowerJ

If they only produced 6700 E90's then a disproportional amount are represented on this forum. Seems like half the people here have E90's.

I buy it. Most of the E9x M3's I see in the wild are coupes and verts.

-=Hot|Ice=- · 08-17-2011, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by arter

Sold more pamamera's than 911's

The Cayenne and Panamera are Porsches best sellers.

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Originally Posted by PhillyNate

Interesting. Thank you.

luis_m3 · 08-17-2011, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by duk

it seems those 24000 coupes live in cali lol

I'm so glad I don't have that problem. I live in Germany and there isn't many at all.

NYCM3ryder · 08-17-2011, 10:13 AM

YES!!!! awesome to know us e90 owners are drivers to a rare style of car

checkmate · 08-17-2011, 10:28 AM

Yup-right about now-this makes my decision to get the E90 even better

swartzentruber · 08-17-2011, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pman10

Well, it's pretty obvious with those figures why sedans will be axed

Actually, I can't understand the why. It's not as though they sold 2. BMW just learned with the 5 series wagon that wagon buyers really really do want a wagon, not an ugly hatchback (i.e. the GT), and when they can't get one from BMW, they go to MB for a wagon. I don't care that much, and guess I'd get a coupe if I had to, but I'm sure there are some buyers that for family reasons need a sedan, and once again, end up going to MB or Audi for one. I can't imagine it really costs them that much to have both, but maybe I'm wrong.

Echo M3 · 08-17-2011, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by swartzentruber

Actually, I can't understand the why. It's not as though they sold 2. BMW just learned with the 5 series wagon that wagon buyers really really do want a wagon, not an ugly hatchback (i.e. the GT), and when they can't get one from BMW, they go to MB for a wagon. I don't care that much, and guess I'd get a coupe if I had to, but I'm sure there are some buyers that for family reasons need a sedan, and once again, end up going to MB or Audi for one. I can't imagine it really costs them that much to have both, but maybe I'm wrong.

Only BMW can answer the question of profitability, unfortunately.

But I thought the BMW insider (SCOTT26) or some source indicated that an F30 M3 sedan was unlikely.

Hopefully BMW looks a bit more closely at m3post, and sees our enthusiasm for another sedan.

davesaddiction · 04-02-2013, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AMPowerJ

If they only produced 6700 E90's then a disproportional amount are represented on this forum. Seems like half the people here have E90's.

Hmm... E90 owners more likely to be enthusiasts, perhaps? If someone's buying an M3 just for appearances/status, they probably wouldn't choose the sedan.

I know for me, personally, there were very few options that were:

4 doors + RWD + manual transmission + 300+ horsepower

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