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      02-03-2011, 08:29 AM   #23
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I like Livingston Red Rose. Its cheap but tastes good.
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Many of the Australian brands (Yellowtail, Little Penguin) are great bargains for an ordinary night. Cupcake Sauv Blanc is my go to white that I always have on hand and it's around $10. Clos de Los Siete is one of my favorite reds and it's also reasonable at $15-20. You don't need to spend $40+ a bottle to find a great wine but you really need to sample as much as you can and find what you like.
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-Angeline Cabernet Sauvignon ~$20usd. One of the best California Cab's on the market under $40 IMHO.

-Robertson Winery Constitution Road, South African. ~$30. The best South African wine I have drank so far.
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IMHO, wine recommendations are stupid. You have no clue what you like.

Go to a SMALL wine store (not bevmo). Go to the counter, tell them your new, and you want to try a white and red. Then tell him you dont want one of those boring pussyshit $10 cabs. Take their recommendations.
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IMHO, wine recommendations are stupid. You have no clue what you like.

Go to a SMALL wine store (not bevmo). Go to the counter, tell them your new, and you want to try a white and red. Then tell him you dont want one of those boring pussyshit $10 cabs. Take their recommendations.
Honestly, this is a really good point. You don't know what you like. Franzia is not wine. Wine truly is an expense habit, and it takes time to judge what type of wine satisfies you.

There are wines that I enjoy that are sometimes quite expensive that might taste like ass to someone that likes Pinot Noirs. It really all depends. Take his advice, go to a wine store and taste all the different types. Once you are familiar with the different kinds you can start working towards specific vineyards and finally vintages.
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Honestly, this is a really good point. You don't know what you like. Franzia is not wine. Wine truly is an expense habit, and it takes time to judge what type of wine satisfies you.

There are wines that I enjoy that are sometimes quite expensive that might taste like ass to someone that likes Pinot Noirs. It really all depends. Take his advice, go to a wine store and taste all the different types. Once you are familiar with the different kinds you can start working towards specific vineyards and finally vintages.
Wine for me is still a relatively cheap habit. Although killing a bottle of $10 wine each night a week adds up quickly
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IMHO, wine recommendations are stupid. You have no clue what you like.

Go to a SMALL wine store (not bevmo). Go to the counter, tell them your new, and you want to try a white and red. Then tell him you dont want one of those boring pussyshit $10 cabs. Take their recommendations.
That statement makes no sense. There are good bottles of wine that can be had for ~$10 and a cab is a nice drink that appeals to a broad crowd. Especially when you're just starting out, there's no need to spend $20, $30, $40 a bottle for something you might not even like. When you're sampling different grape types, start on the lower end until you find something you like. No point in spending $40 on a Malbec only to find out you hate the grape.
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That statement makes no sense. There are good bottles of wine that can be had for ~$10. Especially when you're just starting out, there's no need to spend $20, $30, $40 a bottle for something you might not even like. When you're sampling different grape types, start on the lower end until you find something you like. No point in spending $40 on a Malbec only to find out you hate the grape.
Woahhhhh, awesome advice! Sweet useless post!

If you've read anything I've written, or anything else that anybody else has written, I have recommended that he start with bottles for $15 or less. There are great wines for under $15. I do not suggest yellowtail though. I dont understand why all these people love it. Its watered down flavorless crap IMHO. Also, most cabs Ive had in that price range suck. Bland and boring or spicy and lacking any real body, but if he walks into a wine store and they offer him some yellow tail when he says hes a beginner he should walk out.
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is yellowtail actually made from grapes? I always assumed it was like sangria. That shit is repulsive.
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is yellowtail actually made from grapes? I always assumed it was like sangria. That shit is repulsive.
I dont even know. I put yellow tail on a level below boxed wine. It is absolutely disgusting and only fucktards walk around recommending it to people, telling them that it is great buy based on size and cost.

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is yellowtail actually made from grapes? I always assumed it was like sangria. That shit is repulsive.
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Jesus, calm down. I never claimed I love yellowtail but it's not a bad place to start in finding something you *might* like as far as grape types. All of these specific recommendations are pointless as everyone has different tastes but brands like yellowtail are ridiculously popular so they're obviously appealing to someone out there.

Something that might be useful is to buy like $80 worth of reds. Just go in and get 5 or 6 bottles of all different types and try them side by side. This can also be achieved at a wine tasting at a local store but at 21 years old, I always felt awkward at those things. I've always found that I forget what wines taste like by the time I go to sleep so trying them side by side is very helpful just as driving several cars side by side will highlight the differences much easier.
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If you have a chance go to Napa and wine taste. Go to different wineries since you will learn different things from different wineries. I been drinking wine and collecting wines for a long time. I can tell you this much your taste will change with time. Also what you choose to drink may depend on what you are doing at the time. Also, a good drinking wine something that does not require food can cost as little as $10 a bottle. I personally never bought anything over $25, since I buy my wines young and age them myself. May time the reason you paying $30, $40 or $100 for bottle is because it was aged for you.

One of the difference between most US wines like those from CA is the fact they are single grape (varietal) wines verse blends from outside the US. Some people like a singe varietal wines and other like the blends, it is personal taste. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varietal.

The best thing to do it go and buy a few bottles and give them a try if you can not go wine tasting. or better yet try some that others have. I have friends who fine interesting wines from time to time. So I like seeing what they fine.

I used to drink lots of Merlots in the past and today I like drinking a good Chianti and you can find them between between $10 and $20 and make sure it has the Official seal on it to know if came form the Chianti region of Italy.

Beside this, I have my wine collection filled with Cabernet which are as old as 20 yrs to 5 yrs from a number of different wineries and I have been aging them and pull them out on special occasions with friends and family. Some of there bottle are worth a lot if you had to buy them today.

I am no expert, however, I know what I like and not afraid to try something new. I have picked a few bad ones over time and I usually end up using them to cook with so do not throw them out.

So do not spend lots you may not notice the difference.

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Jesus, calm down. I never claimed I love yellowtail but it's not a bad place to start in finding something you *might* like as far as grape types. All of these specific recommendations are pointless as everyone has different tastes but brands like yellowtail are ridiculously popular so they're obviously appealing to someone out there.

Something that might be useful is to buy like $80 worth of reds. Just go in and get 5 or 6 bottles of all different types and try them side by side. This can also be achieved at a wine tasting at a local store but at 21 years old, I always felt awkward at those things. I've always found that I forget what wines taste like by the time I go to sleep so trying them side by side is very helpful just as driving several cars side by side will highlight the differences much easier.
I disagree. Yellowtail is a horrible place to start. Gay porn is popular but not everybody into it.

If you are fortunate enough to live in a white trash area with a wine store, then wine tastings are usually fun. Take some buddies and check them out. Also, most places give you a 5-20% discount if you buy a 6pack of wine.

But seriously, wine goes best when followed by facials and pearl necklaces. Invite the hoes!
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Yellow Tail and a few other similar wines are the modern day jug wine they just disguised it better. We only serve they to people who are only interested in getting drunk on wine.
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If I drink, I prefer merlots or mixes. But one I found that is unusually good is the Santa Margarita Pinot Grecio. Don't even usually want to have a glass of "white" wines, but the SM is pretty good. ~$25 when I find it in a restaurant, so probably around 15 in a store.
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Yellow Tail and a few other similar wines are the modern day jug wine they just disguised it better. We only serve it to underage girls we want to sleep with.
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Try a La Crema Pinot. It should be pretty easy to find in store.
That's what I was gonna say.
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If I drink, I prefer merlots or mixes. But one I found that is unusually good is the Santa Margarita Pinot Grecio. Don't even usually want to have a glass of "white" wines, but the SM is pretty good. ~$25 when I find it in a restaurant, so probably around 15 in a store.
It is one of the most common PGs in restaurants. Very consistent regardless of the vintage.

La Crema was a great suggestion. It is not overly expensive and Pinot Noirs are very easy on the palate. Light yet flavorful. I have recently gained a lot of respect for Pinot Noirs. I had an amazing Belle Glos. I love red wine... too bad it stains your teeth and dehydrates the hell out of you.
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Doesn't stop me from drinking it. Red whine is great.

Also, decanting a cheap red can really help get rid of the initial hotness and bring out the flavors.
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For a cheap bottle of wine try cosino macul. Its like $20 but for a college student, it's a decent bottle. It's a merlot.
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