Warning for DCT: Do not install latest BMW software update

Teutonic M3 · 12-02-2011, 06:28 AM

If you haven't read, the latest BMW software update will prevent you from engaging your transmission without your seatbelt buckled, either D or R.

While I always wear mine on the road, this is a huge PITA, especially when backing up in your driveway, tight parking, etc.

ChrisK · 12-02-2011, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Teutonic M3

If you haven't read, the latest BMW software update will prevent you from engaging your transmission without your seatbelt buckled, either D or R.

While I always wear mine on the road, this is a huge PITA, especially when backing up in your driveway, tight parking, etc.

I'm all for safety, but this is stupid. So if something with my seat belt mech fails, I cant drive my car?!

Kyoshi71 · 12-02-2011, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Teutonic M3

If you haven't read, the latest BMW software update will prevent you from engaging your transmission without your seatbelt buckled, either D or R.

While I always wear mine on the road, this is a huge PITA, especially when backing up in your driveway, tight parking, etc.

That sucks. Thanks for the heads-up

THE TECH · 12-02-2011, 08:16 AM

This was posted a while back. You can just get the seat belt buckle simulator and snap that in if you don't want the belt on for some reason.

disapr · 12-02-2011, 08:21 AM

That's interesting.. I'm curious how they enforce this on the 6MT cars and also if coding can remove the restriction.

THE TECH · 12-02-2011, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by disapr

That's interesting.. I'm curious how they enforce this on the 6MT cars and also if coding can remove the restriction.

Afaik, there is no restriction on the 6MT. I will find out for sure tomorrow though

skypx · 12-02-2011, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Teutonic M3

If you haven't read, the latest BMW software update will prevent you from engaging your transmission without your seatbelt buckled, either D or R.

While I always wear mine on the road, this is a huge PITA, especially when backing up in your driveway, tight parking, etc.

Interesting.... I've read this before but this is not the case with my M3 MFD 09/11. I wonder what other benefits the new update provides.

Ateam · 12-02-2011, 10:27 AM

I just had dct software updated and do not have this problem. Perhaps there is yet another one releasd

Daft · 12-02-2011, 11:15 AM

I too have the latest DCT and DME update and I don't have this problem. Perhaps Canadian spec cars are exempt from this "feature".

Boostin FD · 12-02-2011, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by THE TECH

Afaik, there is no restriction on the 6MT. I will find out for sure tomorrow though

You're getting your car finally? About time

This thing has been pissing me off ever since they did it...

mkhydra · 12-02-2011, 11:55 AM

i updated my dct e92 software three weeks ago, (regular inspection at bmw dealer just did it) and i am havin this issue and it is PITA when backin up cuz i usually park with my back facing the wall

Darth One · 12-02-2011, 12:12 PM

this is exactly what we need. it's amazing how I was able to survive to adulthood without nanny tech forcing me to buckle up

tom @ eas · 12-08-2011, 01:50 PM

Seems this is already being attended to in ISTA/P 2.45, stemming from a "calibration error":

Subject: After programming the vehicle with ISTA/P 2.43.x and 2.44.x the DCT transmission will not go into gear unless the driver's seat belt buckle is latched and an erroneous fault
Situation : After programming the vehicle with ISTA/P 2.43.x and 2.44.x the DCT transmission will not go into gear unless the driver’s seat belt buckle is latched and an erroneous fault - CF26 is stored in the DCT module.
Vehicles affected: E89 (Z4), E90, E92, and E93 M3 with DCT, produced up to 9/2009
Cause: Calibration error to be corrected with ISTA/P 2.45.0 (E89X-11-09-506)

Recommendation: In the event that the vehicle is programmed, please advise the customer of the functionality change that requires the seat belt to be buckled in order to select a drive gear.

Technical Service

Hope this helps.

BMW Fanatic · 12-08-2011, 02:10 PM

I still don't get this. I can 'D' and 'R' without having my seat belt on but if I open my door to check around the side while reversing there's a 50/50 chance it'll go into 'N'. Now that's a PITA.

skypx · 12-08-2011, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Seems this is already being attended to in ISTA/P 2.45, stemming from a "calibration error":

Subject: After programming the vehicle with ISTA/P 2.43.x and 2.44.x the DCT transmission will not go into gear unless the driver's seat belt buckle is latched and an erroneous fault
Situation : After programming the vehicle with ISTA/P 2.43.x and 2.44.x the DCT transmission will not go into gear unless the driver’s seat belt buckle is latched and an erroneous fault - CF26 is stored in the DCT module.
Vehicles affected: E89 (Z4), E90, E92, and E93 M3 with DCT, produced up to 9/2009
Cause: Calibration error to be corrected with ISTA/P 2.45.0 (E89X-11-09-506)

Recommendation: In the event that the vehicle is programmed, please advise the customer of the functionality change that requires the seat belt to be buckled in order to select a drive gear.

Technical Service

Hope this helps.

Awesome, thanks for the information.

bchang2001 · 12-08-2011, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Seems this is already being attended to in ISTA/P 2.45, stemming from a "calibration error":

Subject: After programming the vehicle with ISTA/P 2.43.x and 2.44.x the DCT transmission will not go into gear unless the driver's seat belt buckle is latched and an erroneous fault
Situation : After programming the vehicle with ISTA/P 2.43.x and 2.44.x the DCT transmission will not go into gear unless the driverÂ’s seat belt buckle is latched and an erroneous fault - CF26 is stored in the DCT module.
Vehicles affected: E89 (Z4), E90, E92, and E93 M3 with DCT, produced up to 9/2009
Cause: Calibration error to be corrected with ISTA/P 2.45.0 (E89X-11-09-506)

Recommendation: In the event that the vehicle is programmed, please advise the customer of the functionality change that requires the seat belt to be buckled in order to select a drive gear.

Technical Service

Hope this helps.

Anyway to check which ista/p is programmed into a car?

skypx · 12-08-2011, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Vehicles affected: E89 (Z4), E90, E92, and E93 M3 with DCT, produced up to 9/2009[B]

I wonder if vehicles manufactured after 9/2009 are unaffected.

tmntmn · 12-08-2011, 04:39 PM

I ask my one of my friend who a tech at BMW, he told be there should be a fix for this beginning of next year.

MR///M3 · 12-08-2011, 04:39 PM

yea I don't have this problem either and I picked up my car last friday.

skypx · 12-08-2011, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tmntmn

I ask my one of my friend who a tech at BMW, he told be there should be a fix for this beginning of next year.

Thanks.

skypx · 12-08-2011, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MR///M3

yea I don't have this problem either and I picked up my car last friday.

What's the MFD date?

MR///M3 · 12-08-2011, 05:14 PM

Week 35. I was one of the first 2012's

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Daft Major 384 Rep 1,202 Posts Drives: 2021 M2C Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada iTrader: (2) Garage List 2003 BMW M3 [10.00] 2011 BMW M3 [9.71]	I too have the latest DCT and DME update and I don't have this problem. Perhaps Canadian spec cars are exempt from this "feature".
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mkhydra Enlisted Member 0 Rep 46 Posts Drives: M3 Interlagos Blue Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Seattle, WA iTrader: (0)	i updated my dct e92 software three weeks ago, (regular inspection at bmw dealer just did it) and i am havin this issue and it is PITA when backin up cuz i usually park with my back facing the wall
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Darth One drunk poster 6613 Rep 3,649 Posts Drives: M4 GTS \| E46 M3 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: FL iTrader: (0)	this is exactly what we need. it's amazing how I was able to survive to adulthood without nanny tech forcing me to buckle up
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MR///M3 e90post veteran 58 Rep 1,375 Posts Drives: Past: '12 M3, '09 335 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: central NJ iTrader: (5)	yea I don't have this problem either and I picked up my car last friday. __________________ 2012 Melbourne Red/Bamboo Novillo E92 M3 - ZCP, ZPP, DCT, BMW Apps, Sat Radio, Heated Seats Mods- 20" BBS LM DBK, 18" Volk TE37SL, iPE F1 Exhaust, OSS, Arkym, RD Sport, and much more... Thanks to- PYSpeed -- Morr Wheels -- OSS Designs -- iND-Distribution
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