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I'm aware that this is a much more discerning crowd.. All the testing to date has yielded very positive results in solving the issues in this situation, and then some. It really hasn't presented any negative drawbacks whatsoever. Several more cars are being fitted locally before they'll be available for shipping/purchase anywhere. When the tracks open, data will be collected and when I'm happy with it, I'll consider replicating in higher volumes,although I've always been distasteful of the idea of things not being completely in my hands. I'm sure that those receiving the next run will post their impressions on the product, and things will progress from there if my own and everyone else's standards are met/exceeded. I refuse to release anything sub-par, which a little time,data and feedback will certainly prove. |
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Solid information from the horses mouth can help that. As opposed to touchy-feely reviews with some pretty questionable claims.
To defivfab: What would be a wonderful test is to actually try to break a differential or other non clutch drive train parts through some abuse on two cars, one with and one without this product. I certainly realize this is an expensive and difficult to conduct test. Nothing beats some data though...
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True story! Hopefully Rick will get his vendor stuff sorted soon. I'm not really sure on the other pricing besides what I paid. Pretty reasonable IMO granted how expensive mods are for this car. Roman, Would be nice to see this tested by the FI vendors granted the market it's designed for. With you guys having such a large market share the amount of data would be awesome. Lalit@ACM mentioned he'll be testing it soon so I'm sure that'll be a nice start. They do a silly amount of kits. Excellent place but everyone knows that by now. Swamp, I hope you get to experience this product and share your personal views as I have.
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03-18-2013, 11:02 PM | #53 |
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Here's the 1st of 10 apparently in titanium :O
2lb 10oz... These have to be welded in an oxygen free tank.
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This is very cool...
I get wheel hop all the time and would absolutely jump at a solution to solve it. OP: Can you please send me contact info so I can inquire about getting one of these myself?
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VCM, Swamp, Malek - can either of you elaborate on how this product differs from a solid rear subframe (such as that discussed in THIS thread)? Is one a more thorough solution? Does one offer benefits that the other doesn't? Does one create negative effects that the other doesn't? Difficulty of install? It's a newb question, I know. But I'm contemplating a solution along these lines and am trying to understand the fundamental difference, to see which solution is (1) more thorough and (2) applies best to me) Quote:
Maybe you can also comment on my above questions in regards to the difference between this solution and a Solid rear subframe. Would appreciate your input. In addition to those questions, I noticed you discussed suspension as one of the contributing factors to creating the wheel hop. You mentioned that the suspension "amplifi[es] this motion via the springs." Do you find that that stiffer suspension (such as KW clubsports) minimize this motion/effect? If so, does this product still offer a worthwhile/noticeable improvement in wheel hop for a car that is equipped with a stiffer suspension. I'm also curious to know (1) the weights of each of these units using each of the differing materials you mentioned (including Titanium) and (2) the prices for each of the differing materials (again including Titainum). If you're not comfortable mentioning price here in the open forums, feel free to PM me with pricing information. Thanks to all. And sorry for the inexperienced question. - esquire
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What was BMW thinking? Making a car that couldn't launch on a wet road with the nannies off? I can see why many of us have zero issues with hop or DCT issues. BMW must go crazy with warranty claims they KNOW in their gut is from abuse. Guys, nothing wrong with picking at a car's flaws, but asking it to do what it wasn't and shouldn't be designed to do seems a bit odd. Not saying you don't get wheel hop in other circumstances, and not saying this isn't a great product. I'm saying this is a bad example of what one has to do to get wheel hop. Cheers, e46e92
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03-19-2013, 07:32 AM | #59 |
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oxygen free tank?? do you know how to TIG weld? not much different than welding stainless besides the rod you use. same argon.
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I have no idea how to weld. Ti doesn't like Oxygen. If you'd like to read about the what Ti does at high-temperatures when it reacts with oxygen please ask a scientist or consult Google. From what I've read and what I've heard from fabricators for high strength welds (which you might want on suspension components) you need to weld your Titanium in an oxygen free environment.
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Where this differs from the solid subframe bushings is that it adds on top of them and bolts onto your rear differential, the stock differential is mounted in 3 points, two smaller bushings and one large rear offset bushing. This doesn't spread forces across the subframe of the car, what the brace does is positively locks the differential to the subframe with two polyurethane bushings on either end of the differential, providing more surface area for the forces exerted on the differential to spread out and keeping it from twisting.
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Yeah It's called a "glovebox",purged with argon. I weld everything to FAA standards, and I'm aerospace tig certified...I'm pretty sure you have to "know how to tig weld" to get that one lol. Sure, you "could" free-air Ti if you want some pretty and brittle pile of weak trash, this a stressed unit. As uniter mentioned, look it up.
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