BMW Fascination I & II in E92 M3 with M-DCT

enfield · 09-28-2008, 05:46 PM

Hi guys - I am not an owner.... yet. I have a Z4M Coupe at this time. I did BMW's Fascination I & II Courses in the M3. BMW Driver Training is a great learning experience. I have done a number of their courses and I have become a much better driver. I specially recommend their Winter Driving Course for everyone!!

My take (& this is just my opinion) on the M3. By the way - this forum is first rate and my opinions are quite similar to what has already been expressed by many.

The noise is FANTASTIC! The S65 engine.... I am in love!

The M-DCT is a great piece of kit. I have a Z4M Coupe 6MT at this time. I will not hesitate and I will get the M-DCT. The gear changes are smooth. We drove in S5 and I did notice a slight lag in the gear changes. I was changing gears around 7K and I did not feel that the slight lag was a problem. The downshifts with rev matching were GLORIOUS!

I felt that the EDC is something I can do without. The car has great handling even in comfort mode. I also did not find the track mode to be too harsh with 19 inch wheels (even on Quebec public roads) - but then again I drive a Z4M Coupe

The brakes are pretty good. I think that the Z4M's brakes are better but then again the Z4M is lighter and it's brakes come from the E46 M3 CSL.

Anyway - that is just mt $0.02. Love the E92 M3. Love the M-DCT. I think I will get one.

A few pictures for you guys:

Me with a shit eating grin:

The Fascination I guys:

The Fascination II guys:

A few M3's:

addy85 · 09-28-2008, 06:41 PM

cool

JEllis · 09-28-2008, 06:47 PM

looks like fun

MJC///M3 · 09-28-2008, 07:35 PM

looks awesome

Zoli007 · 09-28-2008, 10:15 PM

Looks fun, what track is that?

chicagobimmerboy · 09-28-2008, 10:48 PM

cool, I'd like to be part of the line up

flyinggonzo · 09-28-2008, 11:22 PM

It's Tremblant. That looks like a lot of fun- I'll have to try fascination next year!

torredresen · 09-29-2008, 04:04 AM

Nice pix, nice review, nice tracking course with all the trees

Buy one , seriously,do it

KKSigs · 09-29-2008, 05:31 AM

awesome you must had a great time. lucky you

booforty · 09-29-2008, 05:37 AM

Nice write-up and thanks for posting the pics!

enfield · 09-29-2008, 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoli007

Looks fun, what track is that?

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyinggonzo

It's Tremblant. That looks like a lot of fun- I'll have to try fascination next year!

Yep - The track is at Mont Tremblant. It is a nice course with lots of height changes and blind corners. There are also long stretches where we were getting slightly north of 200 kph and then rapidly reaching the braking zone. We also did some drifting excercises on the skid pad. That was also FUN!

It was a great learning experience and I loved the car as I said earlier. It was also a lot of fun. I met a couple of guys who come for the course on a yearly basis!!

Jack28 · 09-30-2008, 05:41 PM

Looks Like you had alot of Fun! Thanks for Sharing! I would love to do that! How can someone go about doing the training?

Thanks

Bimmer Nerd · 09-30-2008, 07:31 PM

very nice write up and pictures, looks like a TON of fun.

enfield · 09-30-2008, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack28

Looks Like you had alot of Fun! Thanks for Sharing! I would love to do that! How can someone go about doing the training?

Thanks

There is a Driver Training section on www.bmw.ca that I used to get information and then sign up.

On www.bmwusa.com there is a link on the top right stating "Experience" just above 'search'. If you put your mouse on that then a window pops up and there is a choice for Performance Driving under events.

It is pricey but worth it in my opinion. Lots of people spend $$ trying to increase power using chips, superchargers, exhausts - but most people do not invest in improving their driving skills.

e46e92love · 10-01-2008, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enfield

Lots of people spend $$ trying to increase power using chips, superchargers, exhausts - but most people do not invest in improving their driving skills.

+1

Flat Out 32 · 10-01-2008, 10:32 PM

Those cars look great with the M stripes! They should make those an accessory as well as something in the F1-08 car for the non-Ms.

dawgdog · 10-02-2008, 06:45 AM

I''m very satisfied with my e92 DCT. With a software upgrade it could approach perfection. Initially I was not that impressed with edc, but after 4000 plus miles and several trips to the track for lapping days I can say that I am glad I have it.

MikeM5 · 10-03-2008, 01:13 PM

wow, very nice...looks like a GREAT time!

Dubois · 10-06-2008, 04:10 AM

Looks great! I will be doing this in the next few months. I completed Advanced II a couple of months back and made this video. We got to spend half the day in the M3's which was a little more than we were supposed to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jbTZXy4Z2M

Deda · 10-06-2008, 05:09 AM

wow,that looks like very good fun!

enfield · 10-06-2008, 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dubois

Looks great! I will be doing this in the next few months. I completed Advanced II a couple of months back and made this video. We got to spend half the day in the M3's which was a little more than we were supposed to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jbTZXy4Z2M

Nice video!! It is a lot of fun!!

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enfield Civilian 79 Rep 970 Posts Drives: Jaguar F-Type V8 S Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ontario iTrader: (0)	BMW Fascination I & II in E92 M3 with M-DCT Hi guys - I am not an owner.... yet. I have a Z4M Coupe at this time. I did BMW's Fascination I & II Courses in the M3. BMW Driver Training is a great learning experience. I have done a number of their courses and I have become a much better driver. I specially recommend their Winter Driving Course for everyone!! My take (& this is just my opinion) on the M3. By the way - this forum is first rate and my opinions are quite similar to what has already been expressed by many. The noise is FANTASTIC! The S65 engine.... I am in love! The M-DCT is a great piece of kit. I have a Z4M Coupe 6MT at this time. I will not hesitate and I will get the M-DCT. The gear changes are smooth. We drove in S5 and I did notice a slight lag in the gear changes. I was changing gears around 7K and I did not feel that the slight lag was a problem. The downshifts with rev matching were GLORIOUS! I felt that the EDC is something I can do without. The car has great handling even in comfort mode. I also did not find the track mode to be too harsh with 19 inch wheels (even on Quebec public roads) - but then again I drive a Z4M Coupe The brakes are pretty good. I think that the Z4M's brakes are better but then again the Z4M is lighter and it's brakes come from the E46 M3 CSL. Anyway - that is just mt $0.02. Love the E92 M3. Love the M-DCT. I think I will get one. A few pictures for you guys: Me with a shit eating grin: The Fascination I guys: The Fascination II guys: A few M3's: Last edited by enfield; 09-29-2008 at 06:12 AM..
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