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Good luck. Unless you're good friends with someone there I'm sure they'll sell you a load of BS. My dealer claims that they don't have issues with HPFP failures for the 335i.
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Unfortunately the shifter on the M3 is not it's greatest strength. |
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On an difference subject I got offered a proper test drive in the TT-RS when they get their demo next month. According to the sales manager who drove it last months along side a Cayman S reckon I will be surprised how much more potent it's engine will feel than the M3 and how much more alert the first end feels. As with most performance cars the sample he drove was equipped with the optional 19" but was told the best balanced option was to stick with the stock 18" and chose the magnetic ride suspension. Another thing, he said the bodykit make the TT look extremely aggressive and this combined with the 'sport' button which increases the exhaust note gives it a huge amount of road presence. I look forward to that meeting. |
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i just lemoned my RS4 from carbon deposits and now drive e92 m3
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interior electronics definitely inferior in older RS4. clutch better in RS4 though. in the rain, not even close in straight line acceleration. in the RS, it might as well be a dry road. in corners though when wet, the nose-heaviness of the car cannot be avoided. awd is great for coming out of corners though. so, it just depends on where you want your speed -- turn in or out? the RS did have its engine issues, but let's see what happens after a year or more so with the M. if you want a newer, more noticeable, respected car, get the M. if you can score a great deal on a used RS4 and plan on trading it for the next best thing, go for it. you won't be disappointed either way. |
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Thanks for all the input, I think I'm going to go with a RS4 there is just something about the RS4 I love , unless I run across a used low mile E90 that I can't pass up.
2008 rs4's with right around 10 thousand miles you can pick up for a great deal right now. One thing I like about the RS4 its such a sleeper. But if any one sees a used Space gray or Sparkling Graph E90 6mt with the gray 18's let me know. Thanks again |
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07-06-2009, 08:53 PM | #29 |
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also i thik RS4 sounds better than m3...listen to vids with tubi exhaust...amazing...and get some stasis ohlins co's and then it becomes a real car
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07-14-2009, 05:59 AM | #30 |
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Personally, with all the DRC issues i've seen reported, I would stick with the e90. The RS is really yesterdays news at this point. The e90 has better technology and engineering. The RS's exhaust note is really to die for however.
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I think from the outside, the RS4 exhaust note is great, but in cabin the RS4 it is very quiet and less involving than the M3 which lets through quite a bit more exhaust note into the cabin. |
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07-16-2009, 08:39 AM | #32 |
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As a second car I might think of something a bit more sporty than either...
Z4MC? S2000 with forced induction(easy 400rwhp, will equal a 997tt in the straights, full spool by 4000 rpms with almost no lag. Can do a complete custom system for ~$12,000) C6? 996TT? 997C2S? As a second car only, the more powerful, responsive RWD car would be a better choice, IMHO. I can't believe the S4 would be as fun, but I haven't driven it (yet). I have driven the RS4 and prefer the M3. Still need to drive the C63 before I order the M to eliminate any doubts.
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I do agree that the BMW seems to "feel" more connected, but I don't think real performance numbers bear out any meaningful advantage. It kind of reminds me of discussions about how the C6 Z06 (which I also owned for 2 years) handling "feels," with people reporting it doesn't give feedback and feels "vague." However, when you look at the numbers, it crushes either of the cars in question here on both road-racing and autocross courses. For me, the E93 is only more "fun" because of the convertible hard-top. Otherwise, I'd prefer the RS4. For the track, I prefer my Lotus.
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I received this in my email from a Colorado Mercedes dealer. If this is nationwide I'd buy the C63.
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Looks is the other area where Audi's RS4 has the M3 licked, the thing looks so much more aggressive, the same is true for the S5 so God knows how the RS5 will look beside an M3. As for handling, I think the M3 has a definite edge on finesse and the feeling of what the chassis is doing at any one time but on public roads I feel even an S4 with Sportdiff edges it on grip, especially if both car's are driven like most drivers do who are inexperienced. On reflection I personally feel I made a rash decision on buying an M3, great car as it all is it doesn't suit the DD driving or roads I travel as well as any of the Audis I have owned. Next time I will be back to an Audi and possibly wish I was in my M3, but given the quality of Audi's chassis of later I doubt such a thought will never cross my mind. It still stands as the best M car ever made in my opinion and if you are a person who prefers BMWs and want the best one then no other fits the bill better. Maybe the experience of the issues with it's DCT and BMW lack of ability to cure the problems has soured my love affair but I doubt I will jump as quickly again to the brand. |
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That's because it was your car (a customer). I could run in there with the coupe and get the same reaction (plus, my schlaheim is 10.5 inches). LOL!
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Don't know if rear seat room is a factor for you at all, but that was the biggest problem I had with the Audi. Unless you have very short passengers, they will be unhappy back there.
Otherwise, both are great cars. I doubt you would be disappointed with either one. |
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