M DCT Drivelogic

ukm3 · 04-03-2007, 10:05 AM

New gearbox to land in march 2008

M DCT Drivelogic - M double clutch transmission. - 7 speed

Normal Manual M3 Performance
0-62 mph 4.8
Maximum Speed 155*

Starting UK price £50,625

Colours

Jerez Black (A73)
Melbourne Red (A75)
Interlagos Blue (A30)
Silverstone II (A29)

Compound disc brakes
Electric Power Steering (EPS)
Four exhaust tailpipes
M Double-VANOS
M Dynamic mode
M Mobility system
M Variable differential lock
MDrive Manager
M-specific suspension setup

aerisolphaln · 04-03-2007, 10:16 AM

Well that's certainly the most specific information posted on this forum in quite some time. Thank you.

What percentage increase from a base 335i is your UK starting price? I ask so that us State boys can get an idea of the bump we'll see in US dollars.

ILC32 · 04-03-2007, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukm3

New gearbox to land in march 2008

M DCT Drivelogic - M double clutch transmission. - 7 speed

Normal Manual M3 Performance
0-62 mph 4.8
Maximum Speed 155*

Interesting . . . may I ask where this info came from?

Ted · 04-03-2007, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aerisolphaln

Well that's certainly the most specific information posted on this forum in quite some time. Thank you.

What percentage increase from a base 335i is your UK starting price? I ask so that us State boys can get an idea of the bump we'll see in US dollars.

Well an E92 335i base price is £33,855, so that's quite a jump, i was expecting base price to be £45-47k

ILC32 · 04-03-2007, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted

Well an E92 335i base price is £33,855, so that's quite a jump, i was expecting base price to be £45-47k

What is the base price on a 997S in the UK?

aerisolphaln · 04-03-2007, 10:28 AM

Well this doesn't look good.

I just did some quick research to answer my own question. I looked at BMW's UK site to find the base price of the 335i SE which looks to be the equivalent to the US 335i coupe. The base price for that car is 33,885 LBS. That means the price difference between the 335i base and the M3 base is 16,380 LBS, which is 48.3% of the base 335i price.

48.3% base price increase, how is that possible? Is the market THAT different between the UK and the US? I know you can't just convert the price of a car in LBS to USD, but I figured the percentage increase between base 335i and M3 would be similar.

48.3% of a base 335i in USD would be $19,706. So, the base price of the M3 in USD would be $60,506. Again, see the disclaimers above, but that is at least 5K higher than I had hoped.

ukm3 · 04-03-2007, 10:29 AM

If you read my other posts you will no where this info comes from

Engine S65
Configuration V8
Capacity 3999cc
Torque 400 / 3900rpm
Power Output 420hp @ 8300rpm
Maximum rpm 8400rpm
Transmission
Manual 6-speed
Dimensions
Length 4615mm
Height 1804mm
Width 1424mm
Fuel Tank Capacity 63 ltr
Boot Capacity (DIN Method) 430 ltr
Performance
0-62 mph 4.8
Maximum Speed 155*
Fuel Consumption
Urban mpg / ltr/100km 15.8 (17.9)
Extra-Urban mpg / ltr/100km 30.7 (9.2)
Combined mpg / ltr/100km 22.8 (12.4)
C02 Emissions (g/km) 295
Emissions Management EU4

18" light alloy M Double-spoke style 260M with mixed tyres
Carbon fibre reinforced plastic (CFRP) roof
M Exterior body styling comprising:
M Aerodynamic front spoiler with oversized brake cooling ducts in place of front fog lights
M Aerodynamic rear spoiler with diffuser
M Exterior mirrors
Powerdome with air intakes
Rear spoiler
Side gills with integrated indicators and M3 logo
Xenon headlights for low and high beam

Door sill finishers with M3 designation
M Gear stick
M Instrument panel comprising
200mph speedometer
M-specific instruments
Oil temperature display
Red needles
Variable preliminary warning lights on rev counter
M Sport seats with backrest width adjustment and lumbar support
M multi-function three-spoke leather steering wheel
Navigation system - Professional

7-speed M Double Clutch Transmission with Drive logic (M DCT Drivelogic) - anticipated to start production in March 2008
2MT, M double spoke 19” forged and polished style 220M with mixed tyres
223, Electronic Damper Control (EDC) offers the choice of three suspension settings; Comfort, Normal & Sport
326, Rear spoiler, deletion
752, BMW Individual Audio HiFi system. Features a nine-channel amplifier with Digital Sound Processing (DSP). Sixteen high-end loudspeakers (Neodym magnetic drives, hexacone diaphragm), at a total of 825W. DIRAC signal processing enables perfectly timed sound experience in all seats.

ILC32 · 04-03-2007, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukm3

If you read my other posts you will no where this info comes from

Right.

Okay, what is the weight, please?

Ted · 04-03-2007, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILC32

What is the base price on a 997S in the UK?

£64,928.00 for Carrera S

Epacy · 04-03-2007, 11:17 AM

If that mpg is right, then that would avoid the gas guzzler tax. As I believe it hits cars with combine mpgs below 22.5.
Would be a good selling point and save everyone $2-3k.

Ted · 04-03-2007, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Epacy

If that mpg is right, then that would avoid the gas guzzler tax. As I believe it hits cars with combine mpgs below 22.5.
Would be a good selling point and save everyone $2-3k.

That mpg figure could be based on UK rather then US gallons.

GregW / Oregon · 04-03-2007, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Epacy

If that mpg is right, then that would avoid the gas guzzler tax. As I believe it hits cars with combine mpgs below 22.5.
Would be a good selling point and save everyone $2-3k.

Those figures are per Euro test cycles, so cannot be directly converted to US figures. Don't sound too bad, though. Still no curb weight info.

ILC32 · 04-03-2007, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted

£64,928.00 for Carrera S

Thanks Ted.

MI6 · 04-03-2007, 12:59 PM

Jerez Black............what the hell is that????

Just_me · 04-03-2007, 01:15 PM

Base price for RS4 in UK???

RandyB · 04-03-2007, 01:22 PM

I guess the weight is a touchy subject.

Goober M · 04-03-2007, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MI6

Jerez Black............what the hell is that????

Well, just a guess here, but since Jerez is known to be a sunny sunny place, maybe it'll be a metallic black with hints of gold?

Could be very dramatic.

I'm just waiting for "Watkins Glen" Blue (if you know what I mean by that color, then +1 for you). Now THAT would be tres tres cool.

REP1KRR · 04-03-2007, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just_me

Base price for RS4 in UK???

£50,930

http://www.audi.co.uk/audi/uk/en2/ne...fications.html

m_bazeepaymon · 04-03-2007, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukm3

If you read my other posts you will no where this info comes from

Engine S65
Configuration V8
Capacity 3999cc
Torque 400 / 3900rpm
Power Output 420hp @ 8300rpm
Maximum rpm 8400rpm
Transmission
Manual 6-speed
Dimensions
Length 4615mm
Height 1804mm
Width 1424mm
Fuel Tank Capacity 63 ltr
Boot Capacity (DIN Method) 430 ltr
Performance
0-62 mph 4.8
Maximum Speed 155*
Fuel Consumption
Urban mpg / ltr/100km 15.8 (17.9)
Extra-Urban mpg / ltr/100km 30.7 (9.2)
Combined mpg / ltr/100km 22.8 (12.4)
C02 Emissions (g/km) 295
Emissions Management EU4

18" light alloy M Double-spoke style 260M with mixed tyres
Carbon fibre reinforced plastic (CFRP) roof
M Exterior body styling comprising:
M Aerodynamic front spoiler with oversized brake cooling ducts in place of front fog lights
M Aerodynamic rear spoiler with diffuser
M Exterior mirrors
Powerdome with air intakes
Rear spoiler
Side gills with integrated indicators and M3 logo
Xenon headlights for low and high beam

Door sill finishers with M3 designation
M Gear stick
M Instrument panel comprising
200mph speedometer
M-specific instruments
Oil temperature display
Red needles
Variable preliminary warning lights on rev counter
M Sport seats with backrest width adjustment and lumbar support
M multi-function three-spoke leather steering wheel
Navigation system - Professional

7-speed M Double Clutch Transmission with Drive logic (M DCT Drivelogic) - anticipated to start production in March 2008
2MT, M double spoke 19” forged and polished style 220M with mixed tyres
223, Electronic Damper Control (EDC) offers the choice of three suspension settings; Comfort, Normal & Sport
326, Rear spoiler, deletion
752, BMW Individual Audio HiFi system. Features a nine-channel amplifier with Digital Sound Processing (DSP). Sixteen high-end loudspeakers (Neodym magnetic drives, hexacone diaphragm), at a total of 825W. DIRAC signal processing enables perfectly timed sound experience in all seats.

i need to see a definite source on this

Mii · 04-03-2007, 01:40 PM

Let's hope the mpg figure is also true for the US to avoid gas guzzler tax. Nevertheless it's an improvement over last generation.

0-62 in 4.8 sec is per manual transmission? Can DCT version be a bit faster?

REP1KRR · 04-03-2007, 01:45 PM

I pulled these prices from respective manufacturer's UK websites -

BMW 335i SE : £33,885
BMW 335i M Sport : £35,760
BMW 550i SE : £45,295
BMW 550i M Sport : £47,855
BMW Z4 M Coupe : £41,865
BMW M5 : £64,585
Audi S4 : £37,415
Audi RS4 : £50,930
Porsche Cayman S : £43,283
Porsche 911 Carrera: £57,878
Porsche 911 Carrera S : £64,928

Just_me · 04-03-2007, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by REP1KRR

I pulled these prices from respective manufacturer's UK websites -

BMW 335i SE : £33,885
BMW 335i M Sport : £35,760
BMW 550i SE : £45,295
BMW 550i M Sport : £47,855
BMW Z4 M Coupe : £41,865
BMW M5 : £64,585
Audi S4 : £37,415
Audi RS4 : £50,930
Porsche Cayman S : £43,283
Porsche 911 Carrera: £57,878
Porsche 911 Carrera S : £64,928

I dont find it acceptable that M3 V8 cost like a RS4. M3 are always cheaper than RS's and thats the way it should be.

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aerisolphaln First Lieutenant 10 Rep 396 Posts Drives: '05 G35 coupe 6MT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Iowa City, IA iTrader: (0)	$60,506 Well this doesn't look good. I just did some quick research to answer my own question. I looked at BMW's UK site to find the base price of the 335i SE which looks to be the equivalent to the US 335i coupe. The base price for that car is 33,885 LBS. That means the price difference between the 335i base and the M3 base is 16,380 LBS, which is 48.3% of the base 335i price. 48.3% base price increase, how is that possible? Is the market THAT different between the UK and the US? I know you can't just convert the price of a car in LBS to USD, but I figured the percentage increase between base 335i and M3 would be similar. 48.3% of a base 335i in USD would be $19,706. So, the base price of the M3 in USD would be $60,506. Again, see the disclaimers above, but that is at least 5K higher than I had hoped. __________________ Now:'05 G35 6MT\Laser Red\Beige\Sport\Premium 06/2008: M3, 335+Dinan, or ...
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ukm3 Private 20 Rep 67 Posts Drives: M3 CSL Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London UK iTrader: (0)	information If you read my other posts you will no where this info comes from Engine S65 Configuration V8 Capacity 3999cc Torque 400 / 3900rpm Power Output 420hp @ 8300rpm Maximum rpm 8400rpm Transmission Manual 6-speed Dimensions Length 4615mm Height 1804mm Width 1424mm Fuel Tank Capacity 63 ltr Boot Capacity (DIN Method) 430 ltr Performance 0-62 mph 4.8 Maximum Speed 155* Fuel Consumption Urban mpg / ltr/100km 15.8 (17.9) Extra-Urban mpg / ltr/100km 30.7 (9.2) Combined mpg / ltr/100km 22.8 (12.4) C02 Emissions (g/km) 295 Emissions Management EU4 18" light alloy M Double-spoke style 260M with mixed tyres Carbon fibre reinforced plastic (CFRP) roof M Exterior body styling comprising: M Aerodynamic front spoiler with oversized brake cooling ducts in place of front fog lights M Aerodynamic rear spoiler with diffuser M Exterior mirrors Powerdome with air intakes Rear spoiler Side gills with integrated indicators and M3 logo Xenon headlights for low and high beam Door sill finishers with M3 designation M Gear stick M Instrument panel comprising 200mph speedometer M-specific instruments Oil temperature display Red needles Variable preliminary warning lights on rev counter M Sport seats with backrest width adjustment and lumbar support M multi-function three-spoke leather steering wheel Navigation system - Professional 7-speed M Double Clutch Transmission with Drive logic (M DCT Drivelogic) - anticipated to start production in March 2008 2MT, M double spoke 19” forged and polished style 220M with mixed tyres 223, Electronic Damper Control (EDC) offers the choice of three suspension settings; Comfort, Normal & Sport 326, Rear spoiler, deletion 752, BMW Individual Audio HiFi system. Features a nine-channel amplifier with Digital Sound Processing (DSP). Sixteen high-end loudspeakers (Neodym magnetic drives, hexacone diaphragm), at a total of 825W. DIRAC signal processing enables perfectly timed sound experience in all seats.
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Mii Lieutenant 388 Rep 487 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: US iTrader: (0)	Let's hope the mpg figure is also true for the US to avoid gas guzzler tax. Nevertheless it's an improvement over last generation. 0-62 in 4.8 sec is per manual transmission? Can DCT version be a bit faster?
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REP1KRR My other car is a Scooter'ia 85 Rep 1,302 Posts Drives: M3 Saloon Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Salt Lake City iTrader: (8)	I pulled these prices from respective manufacturer's UK websites - BMW 335i SE : £33,885 BMW 335i M Sport : £35,760 BMW 550i SE : £45,295 BMW 550i M Sport : £47,855 BMW Z4 M Coupe : £41,865 BMW M5 : £64,585 Audi S4 : £37,415 *Audi RS4 : £50,930* Porsche Cayman S : £43,283 Porsche 911 Carrera: £57,878 Porsche 911 Carrera S : £64,928
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